Firearms are prohibited sign

[Micky]

Also keep in mind if your vice president friend had said anything along the lines of "No, we don't want guns on the premises", you would then be prohibited from carrying concealed into that building ever again, regardless of if they placed a binding 30.06 sign up. Oral notice does not have to follow the wording requirements of posted signs.

This is a notice to everyone that reads this thread. Leave it be lest you get yourself in trouble.

I am fully aware of that. And, after considering many factors, I made a decision to call him. If you read my last post, I did not directly question their policy about conceal carry. It was not exactly that "I got lucky this time." No where even close to getting in trouble.

[eric]

What is the real purpose of an unenforceable sign. I have ideas about it, if anyone knows whats behind it please say. The fairly new sign, unlicensed carry of weapon on these premises---ect. seems right.

[Liberty]

What is the real purpose of an unenforceable sign. I have ideas about it, if anyone knows whats behind it please say. The fairly new sign, unlicensed carry of weapon on these premises---ect. seems right.

The real purpose of the sign is to keep insurance campanys happy.

I work for a small company that that supports the folks in the oil and chemical business. Homeland Security is not only causing them to tighten up, but also anyone doing business with these type of companies.

so far in the last 6 months we have adopted photo IDs ( with 20 employees it becomes obvious if someone is around that doesn't belong.) and greatly increased our employee manual. Wehere we had no gun policy before we adopted something like. " No Illegal weapon are to allowed in the work place. Our contractactors are happy, Big brother (Homeland Security) is happy, and the pistol packers are happy.

[Liberty]

What is the real purpose of an unenforceable sign. I have ideas about it, if anyone knows whats behind it please say. The fairly new sign, unlicensed carry of weapon on these premises---ect. seems right.

The real purpose of the sign is to keep insurance campanys., OSHA or Corporate offices happy.

I work for a small company that that supports the folks in the oil and chemical business. Homeland Security is not only causing them to tighten up, but also anyone doing business with these type of companies.

so far in the last 6 months we have adopted photo IDs ( with 20 employees it becomes obvious if someone is around that doesn't belong.) and greatly increased our employee manual. Wehere we had no gun policy before we adopted something like. " No Illegal weapon are to allowed in the work place. Our contractactors are happy, Big brother (Homeland Security) is happy, and the pistol packers are happy.

[eric]

Now correct me if I am wrong, some companies say no guns on property, not premises. I am fine with that in the building. But some folks drive 100+ miles for 12 hr shift or more then do it all over again and again. Can they really enforce no guns in your car while you are inside working? I think they can but this needs to overturned starting jan. 13 2009.

[Sangiovese]

Now correct me if I am wrong, some companies say no guns on property, not premises. I am fine with that in the building. But some folks drive 100+ miles for 12 hr shift or more then do it all over again and again. Can they really enforce no guns in your car while you are inside working? I think they can but this needs to overturned starting jan. 13 2009.

Yes, they can.

If they post their parking lots 30.06, then you would be in violation of criminal trespass laws. If they do not post them 30.06 and just have a written policy (that doesn't comply with the 30.06 language) preventing it, then you would not be in violation of the law, but they could fire you for violating their policy. (If they tell you verbally that guns are not allowed on company property, then it is just like a valid 30.06 sign and you have been given effective notice.)

I drive 50 miles each way to work. My company has a no guns on company property policy. There is no place nearby for me to park off company property. I refuse to allow their policy to disarm me during my commute and at any place that I may stop during my commute... so I violate it. Since I am in violation of the policy even if I leave my gun locked in the safe in my car, I figure I might as well keep it on my hip. It is not any more of a violation of their policy than if I left it in the car.

If they ever give me a verbal notice or post the place correctly, I will walk out and tell them to mail my last check and my stuff from my office. I would be ok with disarming in the building, but I am not going to let them disarm me during my 100 mile daily commute, gas stops, etc...

Last year we tried to get a law passed that would prevent employers from keeping their licensed employees from storing firearms in their cars. It died without ever going up for a vote. Maybe next session we'll get somewhere with it.

[eric]

Right on with the commute. Thats where the real problems lie. There are many problems on a dark desolate highway if something comes up.