Re: Rugers... why not more popular?
Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 10:56 pm
The 10/22 is a fun gun.
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Ruger also has a annoying habit of stamping nearly an entire owners manual on the exterior of their pistols.srothstein wrote:I think there are a combination of reasons you do not see more people talking about Rugers. One reason is the first designs in the P series were big and blocky. They just did not look good compared to the S&W autos that were already on the market, and the others becoming more popular at the time. Ruger had great revolvers, and their Mark II .22 semi was arguably one of the best in the world, but the bigger semi's just did not look good compared to the rest of the market.
A second reason was the word getting around about Bill Ruger supporting magazine limits. Some thought he supported a 10 round limit though I think he wanted it at 15. A lot of people reacted as you would think when they thought he was cooperating with the anti's. IMHO, he was using the anti's for marketing reasons more thna cooperating. A 15 round limit would really have hurt Glock as his competition. But there are still people who resent his attitude and decline to purchase the guns.
The third reason was the growing market power of several other designs which just looked better. The marketplace just seemed to prefer other guns and pretty soon the Rugers were almost forgotten about. Gaston Glock had a much better marketing scheme, especially with his police pricing.
As for the guns themselves, I tend to agree with what has been said. They are big, blocky, and very reliable.
People have described the Ruger trigger as Horrible, but I never noticed anything wrong.. I don't pay much attention.. long pull the first time light and short thereafter. I hit where I'm aiming with it. That's what counts. I might not know the thrill of a nice trigger. But I do understand the good feeling that when I pull the gun will go bang and I will hit where I am aiming at. Is the easiest gun I've ever cleaned, although its not at all fussy when gets a few hundred rounds through it.fredtubbs wrote:I love my P95, for the same reasons others have mentioned. It was the first gun I bought and is my primary home defense gun. It actually feels good in my hand. I like the trigger quite a bit - but that's really just preference and probably will stir up a lot of debate. I also have an LCP. It's a great little conceal gun, but I don't enjoy shooting it because it is so small. But I could spend all day at the range with the P95.
Took the words right out of my mouth.Liberty wrote:SlowDave wrote: I wondered the samething when I first joined this forum .. Turns out quit a few folks here own Rugers and even carry them but there just isn't much to discuss about a gun that simply works well.
Liberty wrote:People have described the Ruger trigger as Horrible, but I never noticed anything wrong.. I don't pay much attention.. long pull the first time light and short thereafter. I hit where I'm aiming with it. That's what counts. I might not know the thrill of a nice trigger. But I do understand the good feeling that when I pull the gun will go bang and I will hit where I am aiming at. Is the easiest gun I've ever cleaned, although its not at all fussy when gets a few hundred rounds through it.fredtubbs wrote:I love my P95, for the same reasons others have mentioned. It was the first gun I bought and is my primary home defense gun. It actually feels good in my hand. I like the trigger quite a bit - but that's really just preference and probably will stir up a lot of debate. I also have an LCP. It's a great little conceal gun, but I don't enjoy shooting it because it is so small. But I could spend all day at the range with the P95.
I think that the point here though is that there are a lot of Rugers out there. We just don't talk much about them. I've even thought about getting a smaller easier to carry gun, but I wonder, Could I get one I could trust as much?
Yet they seem to give S&W a pass, despite their "deal with the devil" and Clinton's HUD agreement.srothstein wrote:A second reason was the word getting around about Bill Ruger supporting magazine limits. Some thought he supported a 10 round limit though I think he wanted it at 15. A lot of people reacted as you would think when they thought he was cooperating with the anti's. IMHO, he was using the anti's for marketing reasons more thna cooperating. A 15 round limit would really have hurt Glock as his competition. But there are still people who resent his attitude and decline to purchase the guns.
My P95 while could be described as a little chunky, is not a heavyweight. I conceal carry mine, but I also am a bit chunky.SlowDave wrote:Thanks for all the terrific (positive and negative) feedback folks! If I summarize, sounds like no one's really had a problem with the reliability of the Ruger P-series, and they are inexpensive, but main complaints are a) looks/weight or b) Mr. Ruger (forget his first name), who is by the way no longer there. Also many quietly satisfied owners out there.
The trigger in SA mode is WAY better than my Sigma .40, and probably even a bit better in DA. Shoots accurately, and I like the chunky looks. In addition, the size is not really a factor for someone who's only gonna carry in the car or in the house, and it doesn't seem that much larger than the Sigma to me (not that the Sigma's a tiny gun or anything). Glad to hear that no one really has had problems with them, as that confirms that my current issues are most likely with the operator, and may also improve with more rounds fired.
Thanks again!!!
I wouldn't call it inferior design or manufacturing. Little LCP shoots fine for me.Jungle Work wrote:You might ask the owners of the SR9s or LCPs that are having to send their weapons back to the factory because of inferior design and/or
manufactoring.
I don't remember any kind of recall ever with the P-series pistols. It was only when they broke new ground for them that any problems appeared.Jungle Work wrote:Why not more popular?
You might ask the owners of the SR9s or LCPs that are having to send their weapons back to the factory because of inferior design and/or
manufactoring.
I several Ruger double action revolvers that are great, but I wouldn't trust Ruger to make a reliable center fire semi auto pistol.
I still waitn' on my boxes for my LCPs. I understand that there are 60,000 LCPs to repair.
Jungle Work