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stevie_d_64 wrote:

secure wrote:Looks good without intruders will be shot line. How about "Intruders will be stopped" >

That is actually a very clever play on words, and yet very appropriate, regardless if I think the original intent on broadcasting your intent is to stop, or shoot, and intruder...

It is actually an unspoken fact if you ask me, and one that I would love to remain an uncertainty to the criminal (and legal) community...

Just my opinion...

The PC (Politically contorted) version would be: "Intruders will be dealt with appropriately under the applicable provisions of federal, state, and local law."

I know they can offer modified versions

secure wrote:Looks good without intruders will be shot line. How about "Intruders will be stopped" >

How about "Details Inside" , then post it on your front door.

Long time lurker, first time poster. Love this site. Keep up the good work. I have been on the fence with the whole Castle law sign / sticker issue and although I can understand the whole Red-Neck shoot first ask questions second mentality on the Castle Law Stickers and maybe even the kindof legal mumbo jumbo related to the "intent"... but I am really tired of being "invisible". And at this point in time, I really would like a means by which to identify those people that have the same beliefs as I do. I live in Houston and I am telling you, every day I drive to work and then home at night, I feel like I am under attack. I wish there was a way to just simply have a visual cue that wasn't offensive or "red-necky" that would let me know something more about the person who is driving the 3,000 missile next to me... Yes, I could look for the Nobama stickers or the Harley stickers but, what does that really tell me. Then, on my way to work today, I saw a sticker on a Toyota Land Cruiser that was in the form of the state of Texas and had CHL printed in black on it. When I got into work today, I did a search and this is what I found - http://www.chlstickers.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - anyone ever heard of these folks? - To all that make this site available and for all of those that contribute to it, Thanks again. - Ryan

RDM wrote:Long time lurker, first time poster. Love this site. Keep up the good work. I have been on the fence with the whole Castle law sign / sticker issue and although I can understand the whole Red-Neck shoot first ask questions second mentality on the Castle Law Stickers and maybe even the kindof legal mumbo jumbo related to the "intent"... but I am really tired of being "invisible". And at this point in time, I really would like a means by which to identify those people that have the same beliefs as I do. I live in Houston and I am telling you, every day I drive to work and then home at night, I feel like I am under attack. I wish there was a way to just simply have a visual cue that wasn't offensive or "red-necky" that would let me know something more about the person who is driving the 3,000 missile next to me... Yes, I could look for the Nobama stickers or the Harley stickers but, what does that really tell me. Then, on my way to work today, I saw a sticker on a Toyota Land Cruiser that was in the form of the state of Texas and had CHL printed in black on it. When I got into work today, I did a search and this is what I found - http://www.chlstickers.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - anyone ever heard of these folks? - To all that make this site available and for all of those that contribute to it, Thanks again. - Ryan

While I understand your dilemma, I still think that stickers advertising that you have a CHL are just as bad as running through a Wal-Mart yelling "I HAVE A CHL!", in that, at the least, some people will immediately pass judgment on you as a paranoid gun-nut-job, and someone might even call the cops on you.

Driving down the road with a CHL sticker, some anti-gunner could easily call the cops on you, and claim that you pointed a gun at them. The cops arrive, and viola, you DO have a gun on you (After all, you're a CHL holder). If they asked the original driver for a description, they can either say 'it was black' and be right 90% of the time, or say 'I dont know, I was sooooo scared.. I just saw the end of the barrel!'

To me, it's a bad deal all around.

RDM wrote:Long time lurker, first time poster. Love this site. Keep up the good work. I have been on the fence with the whole Castle law sign / sticker issue and although I can understand the whole Red-Neck shoot first ask questions second mentality on the Castle Law Stickers and maybe even the kindof legal mumbo jumbo related to the "intent"... but I am really tired of being "invisible". And at this point in time, I really would like a means by which to identify those people that have the same beliefs as I do. I live in Houston and I am telling you, every day I drive to work and then home at night, I feel like I am under attack. I wish there was a way to just simply have a visual cue that wasn't offensive or "red-necky" that would let me know something more about the person who is driving the 3,000 missile next to me... Yes, I could look for the Nobama stickers or the Harley stickers but, what does that really tell me. Then, on my way to work today, I saw a sticker on a Toyota Land Cruiser that was in the form of the state of Texas and had CHL printed in black on it. When I got into work today, I did a search and this is what I found - http://www.chlstickers.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - anyone ever heard of these folks? - To all that make this site available and for all of those that contribute to it, Thanks again. - Ryan

Welcome aboard the forum.

IMO, "concealed means concealed". The less said about our CHL's the better. I Hope and pray that I am never forced to bring it and my CC into play. Even if I'm right and prevail in the confrontation, the endgame will be costly and ugly.

Good luck and God bless.

RDM wrote:Long time lurker, first time poster. Love this site. Keep up the good work. I have been on the fence with the whole Castle law sign / sticker issue and although I can understand the whole Red-Neck shoot first ask questions second mentality on the Castle Law Stickers and maybe even the kindof legal mumbo jumbo related to the "intent"... but I am really tired of being "invisible". And at this point in time, I really would like a means by which to identify those people that have the same beliefs as I do. I live in Houston and I am telling you, every day I drive to work and then home at night, I feel like I am under attack. I wish there was a way to just simply have a visual cue that wasn't offensive or "red-necky" that would let me know something more about the person who is driving the 3,000 missile next to me... Yes, I could look for the Nobama stickers or the Harley stickers but, what does that really tell me. Then, on my way to work today, I saw a sticker on a Toyota Land Cruiser that was in the form of the state of Texas and had CHL printed in black on it. When I got into work today, I did a search and this is what I found - http://www.chlstickers.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - anyone ever heard of these folks? - To all that make this site available and for all of those that contribute to it, Thanks again. - Ryan

They want $10 for that sticker? They're very proud of them.

While I agree with the sentiment, ultimately it compromises a defense plan. I wouldn't use one of those any more than I would put a TSRA or NRA sticker on my truck...

Too easy for someone to call in a false report of "the guy held up a gun"...

Excaliber wrote:The PC (Politically contorted) version would be: "Intruders will be dealt with appropriately under the applicable provisions of federal, state, and local law."

That's funny. I still wouldn't post one, but it's much better than the others.

You could put one of these on your truck and have deniability.

Yah, you'd end up looking like the higher class version of this..


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AndyC wrote:What's next, a big "S" on the chest

All – thank you for welcoming me to the board, I really appreciate that. I read over the replies to my post from yesterday before I went to sleep last night and was on the fence on what to think. This morning, when I woke up I realized that this is exactly what the anti gun people want us to do. They need us to be invisible. They need us to be scared. Their ability to keep us afraid to show our unity is the thing that gives them the power to continue to defend their argument that WE are the minority, the “fringe” and that they are the majority. I don’t know why that was the first thing that popped into my mind this morning, but I can’t get that out of my head. Then, I thought more about these CHL stickers and realized that 99.9% of the total population has no idea what that even means. You do, I do and really that’s all that matters. If I see you and you see me, then we both know what that means and I know I have a brother in arms by my side and I like knowing that.

On the “pointed a gun at me” report to the police issue “dicion” and others mentioned, you know it is also against the law to file a false police report. In the state of Texas, filing a false police report is a class “B” misdemeanor under Chapter 37 – Perjury and Other Falsification:
§ 37.08. FALSE REPORT TO PEACE OFFICER OR LAW ENFORCEMENT EMPLOYEE.
(a) A person commits an offense if, with intent to deceive, he knowingly makes a false statement that is material to a criminal investigation and makes the statement to:
(1) a peace officer conducting the investigation; or
(2) any employee of a law enforcement agency that is authorized by the agency to conduct the investigation and that the actor knows is conducting the investigation.
(b) In this section, "law enforcement agency" has the meaning assigned by Article 59.01, Code of Criminal Procedure.
(c) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor.

And I just can’t in my mind let the “threat” of reporting crime against me (making a false police report) stop me from doing something that is not a crime and that I believe in – that is just not right to me….

So, unless someone can tell me something bad about this CHL sticker site, I think I am going to get one and see what happens. If anyone is interested in my experiences with this company or if I get pulled over all the time and harassed or end up having a RAP sheet due to all of the police reports filed against me, I will post that to this site.

In any event, if you see me with a Texas shaped sticker with CHL on it, throw me a wave and know that I am on your side. GOD Bless all of you! - Ryan