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Re: LEO marked mags and a self defence shooting
Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:46 pm
by killerfly128
KRM45 wrote:Now I do want to comment that the way I read your statement you are using a magazine designed to hold .40 caliber rounds, and using it to hold 9mm rounds and shoot them through a 9mm handgun. I wish you the best of luck with this, but I would never do such a thing with a defensive carry pistol. At best you are getting 2 extra rounds, and worst you are carrying a non functioning paper weight. YMMV
Like i said earler ... the setup has been tested extensivly. I have 250 rounds throught this mag alone 50 being carry ammo
I think what he's asking is can you load 12 to 14 9mm rounds in one of the 10 round 40 Smith mags and the answer is a resounding yes. Not only that they sit a bit higher and are more dependable.
You can also do it in the P2K mags and compact mags. (same mag)
That was how a huge bunch of us got hig cap mags during the AWB.. Buy a 10 round 40 Smith and grin because few clerks in guns stores knew the secret and those that did were doing the same thing.
I put 200 rounds through 2 of them this past weekend.
That is exactly why I purchase ONLY 40 Smith mags now. If I move to Ca it will be those mags I take with me.
Re: LEO marked mags and a self defence shooting
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 9:16 am
by Liberty
killerfly128 wrote:Someone? anyone?
Your not planning on taking hollow points to New Jersey are you? I personally won't carry any gun that is legal in California, nor ammo that can't be carried in New Jersey.
Re: LEO marked mags and a self defence shooting
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:41 pm
by The Annoyed Man
WildBill wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:Then hand the attorney a hanky to blow his nose with when he breaks down in tears...
If you had a good lawyer:
- You probably wouldn't be testifying.
- And if you were testifying, he would object to these types of questions.
- He would tell you just answer the questions and not to argue with the DA.
Yeah, you're probably right, but it sure felt good typing that.

Re: LEO marked mags and a self defence shooting
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 4:59 pm
by KRM45
killerfly128 wrote:KRM45 wrote:Now I do want to comment that the way I read your statement you are using a magazine designed to hold .40 caliber rounds, and using it to hold 9mm rounds and shoot them through a 9mm handgun. I wish you the best of luck with this, but I would never do such a thing with a defensive carry pistol. At best you are getting 2 extra rounds, and worst you are carrying a non functioning paper weight. YMMV
Like i said earler ... the setup has been tested extensivly. I have 250 rounds throught this mag alone 50 being carry ammo
Like I said, I wish you the best of luck with it...
Re: LEO marked mags and a self defence shooting
Posted: Sun Nov 23, 2008 11:17 pm
by killerfly128
Liberty wrote:killerfly128 wrote:Someone? anyone?
Your not planning on taking hollow points to New Jersey are you? I personally won't carry any gun that is legal in California, nor ammo that can't be carried in New Jersey.
I have no desire to go to NJ for any reason. And my carry gun is not something i could carry in CA with its current setup
Re: LEO marked mags and a self defence shooting
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:15 pm
by Plato
pt145ss wrote:I read an article written by Ayoob in GUNS&AMMO (special addition dedicated to self-defense) recently. Ayoob basically said that every choice you make about your carry piece needs to be defensible…everything from the gun itself to the ammo used and etc. He cited several cases where people were convicted, in otherwise justifiable shootings, ...
Sometimes these arguements make me think us poor working stiffs should just sell the guns and hope for the best. Its just so darn risky trying to survive in this old world. I suspect the only home invasion I will have to fight off will catch me with my highly customized target pistol with the hottest screaming handloads I've ever created and that silly 33 round mag that I never thought I'd use. It seems so much safer to just curl up in a ball in the corner of the basement and hope all goes well
Sorry, feeling pissy now that the turkey is going bad

Re: LEO marked mags and a self defence shooting
Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2008 8:24 pm
by retrieverman
I carry them.
Re: LEO marked mags and a self defence shooting
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 4:10 am
by killerfly128
Plato wrote:pt145ss wrote:I read an article written by Ayoob in GUNS&AMMO (special addition dedicated to self-defense) recently. Ayoob basically said that every choice you make about your carry piece needs to be defensible…everything from the gun itself to the ammo used and etc. He cited several cases where people were convicted, in otherwise justifiable shootings, ...
Sometimes these arguements make me think us poor working stiffs should just sell the guns and hope for the best. Its just so darn risky trying to survive in this old world. I suspect the only home invasion I will have to fight off will catch me with my highly customized target pistol with the hottest screaming handloads I've ever created and that silly 33 round mag that I never thought I'd use. It seems so much safer to just curl up in a ball in the corner of the basement and hope all goes well
Sorry, feeling pissy now that the turkey is going bad

agreed, I am seriously thinking about selling all of my shooting stuff and buying a much safer motorcycle
Re: LEO marked mags and a self defence shooting
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:50 am
by KD5NRH
zach wrote:"So you're just a wannabe cop running around town deploying your own brand of unregulated vigilante justice now?"
"No, I prefer generic vigilante justice. It's cheaper and works just as well as the brand name stuff, just doesn't taste quite the same. If you'd like a demonstration, I'll be deploying some on my attorney shortly unless he explains just why h's letting me answer these questions. Besides, if I wanted to be a cop, I wouldn't be running around town at all until after WingStop closes."
Re: LEO marked mags and a self defence shooting
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:58 am
by Excaliber
Liberty wrote:killerfly128 wrote:Someone? anyone?
Your not planning on taking hollow points to New Jersey are you? I personally won't carry any gun that is legal in California, nor ammo that can't be carried in New Jersey.
New Jersey forbids carrying hollow point rounds in a loaded gun. This leaves you with the choice of solid points (generally FMJ in an auto pistol) or Federal's EFMJ rounds if you are one of the very few people privileged to carry a handgun in that state.
Using FMJ rounds creates a high likelihood of overpenetration and poor stopping results. They would be a poor (and potentially negligent) choice anywhere else.
Let California and NJ wallow in their foolishness and enjoy the freedom you have in Texas and other reciprocal states.
Re: LEO marked mags and a self defence shooting
Posted: Sun Nov 30, 2008 9:02 am
by flintknapper
Excaliber wrote:Liberty wrote:killerfly128 wrote:Someone? anyone?
Your not planning on taking hollow points to New Jersey are you? I personally won't carry any gun that is legal in California, nor ammo that can't be carried in New Jersey.
New Jersey forbids carrying hollow point rounds in a loaded gun. This leaves you with the choice of solid points (generally FMJ in an auto pistol) or Federal's EFMJ rounds if you are one of the very few people privileged to carry a handgun in that state.
Using FMJ rounds creates a high likelihood of overpenetration and poor stopping results. They would be a poor (and potentially negligent) choice anywhere else.
Let California and NJ wallow in their foolishness and enjoy the freedom you have in Texas and other reciprocal states.
