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GLOCKS don't people! People shoot people, sometimes themselves.

TacShot wrote:GLOCKS don't people! People shoot people, sometimes themselves.

You got to admit though that some guns just make it easier for things like this to happen.

Liberty wrote:

TacShot wrote:GLOCKS don't people! People shoot people, sometimes themselves.

You got to admit though that some guns just make it easier for things like this to happen.

I don't get this. You are either safe.....or you are dangerous. Does it really have anything to do with the gun? I am not trying to offend, but I refuse to let a .30 cent plastic safety device be the deciding factor on where or when bullets fly

Liberty wrote:

TacShot wrote:GLOCKS don't people! People shoot people, sometimes themselves.

You got to admit though that some guns just make it easier for things like this to happen.

You got to admit though that some guns just make it easier for people to defend themselves, too.

Yes, I carry a Glock. It has never shot anyone, because its owner follows the rules of gun safety religiously. I'm so used to giving a mini safety speech to my sons every time I hand them an unloaded firearm, that I found myself doing the same thing to my Uncle when I showed him my unloaded Glock over the Thanksgiving holiday. My Uncle taught me how to shoot and the rules of gun safety. I guess his lessons stuck!

jbirds1210 wrote:

Liberty wrote:

TacShot wrote:GLOCKS don't people! People shoot people, sometimes themselves.

You got to admit though that some guns just make it easier for things like this to happen.

I don't get this. You are either safe.....or you are dangerous. Does it really have anything to do with the gun? I am not trying to offend, but I refuse to let a .30 cent plastic safety device be the deciding factor on where or when bullets fly

I don't know which 30 cent piece of plastic you refer to. Probably the manual safety. While believe manual safetys are a good idea. I was mostly thinking about a design that requires the operator to pull the trigger to disassemble. It sounds stupid to me.

I can't deny that those who practice good safety habits, won't cause accidents, the problem is every one thinks they are safe, and Glocks just seem to be involved with this type of thing more often than any other gun. In one week we have a cop shooting himself cleaning his Glock , and a football player shooting himself while trying to catch his Glock sliding down his pantleg. While carelessness was the most prevalent factor here, the fact is these types of accidents wouldn't happen with a traditional manual/safety DA/SA or 1911.

I don't mean to paint Glock owners with a broad brush. Most that I know are very safe, and are every bit as responsible as any 1911 owner. And there are those who shoot confidently even with a 30 cent manual safety getting in their way.

I have to pull the trigger on my Taurus to tear it down. I don't find a fault in that. I find a fault in the fact that one who is supposed to have superior training in the handling of firearms shot himself.

flb_78 wrote:I have to pull the trigger on my Taurus to tear it down. I don't find a fault in that. I find a fault in the fact that one who is supposed to have superior training in the handling of firearms shot himself.

But why would one assume that a cop would have superior training in firearms than most CHLs... I dare say that most hand gun enthusiast practice more and shoot better than the average LEO that doesn't shoot as a hobby.

TacShot wrote:GLOCKS don't people! People shoot people, sometimes themselves.

Ok,

I see another nominee for the funny post of the year award...

Do I have a second?

stevie_d_64 wrote:

TacShot wrote:GLOCKS don't people! People shoot people, sometimes themselves.

Ok,

I see another nominee for the funny post of the year award...

Do I have a second?

I suppose you found some humor in my mistake. Therefore, allow me to correct my post as I do not desire to win by a simple omission. I would expect a higher standard for such a prestigious award.

Glocks don't shoot people! People shoot people, sometimes themselves.

barres wrote:

Liberty wrote:

TacShot wrote: My Uncle taught me how to shoot and the rules of gun safety. I guess his lessons stuck!

I bet you made him proud. I sometimes take my teenage nephew to the range with me, and we always talk safety on the way to the range and while on the firing line. He made a mistake once when one of my 1911s stovepiped, and he turned toward me with the gun and asked what to do. He got a good reaming. I told him the first thing he needed to do is point that thing down range and put it on the table. I informed him of the mistake he had just made, and how it not only endagered everyone the gun was pointed at, but also made him and I look like a couple of real idiots. To his credit, he didnt question how the gun could fire with an empty round sticking up in the port. He got to sit out the rest of the day watching us shoot and thinking about the goof up. He learns quick. We have been shooting together alot since then, and he always very safety consious. He is a good kid. Joining the Coast Guard when he graduates this year.

Liberty wrote:I can't deny that those who practice good safety habits, won't cause accidents, the problem is every one thinks they are safe, and Glocks just seem to be involved with this type of thing more often than any other gun.

Gee... Do you think that that could possibly be because Glocks are one of, if not the, most popular handguns on the market and in the home in America today? If there are more of them in use, then there will, statistically speaking, be more of them mis-used, as well. As we so often say when confronting the Brady bunch, "Don't blame the tool for what some idiot did with it."

The safety on my Glock 27 works fine. It is my primary carry.

I DON'T STICK MY FINGER IN THE TRIGGER. <Safety On>

I STICK MY FINGER IN THE TRIGGER WHEN I WANT TO SHOOT> <Safety Off>

A Glock is not a problematic weapon.

I would bet there is one time you put your finger in the trigger on a Glock when you do not want to shoot.

While a lot of people do not like the lack of exterior safeties on the Glock other than the trigger safety, I do not think this is really a problem. After all, the first basic rule of safety about the finger and the trigger takes 95% of the problem away. A lot of officers were taught on their revolvers to reholster it with one hand and without looking at the weapon. The idea being you would need to put the gun away while you were still watching the suspect, maybe even using one hand to control him. If you do this with a Glock and with a thumbbreak holster (like most cops wore for years), it is easy for the flap sticking up to get caught in the trigger guard and cause a discharge. During the early switch over to Glocks from revolvers, this did cause them to get a bad reputation with some people. It still causes some problems but most of us have since learned how to do this safely.

BUT, there is, IMHO, a major flaw with the Glock design. The Glock is one of those few pistols that require the trigger to be pulled for the weapon to be field stripped. This is when most people have to put their finger on the trigger when they have no intention to shoot. This is how a lot of problems can occur. And I freely admit that it still requires a mistake on the aprt of the operator to have a discharge, but it seems to be setting one up a lot easier. If you have properly unloaded and cleared the weapon before starting disassembly, there is not a problem. But I also know that more people are hurt accidentally with "unloaded" guns than with loaded ones.

Between these two situations, I am sometimes more surprised that there are not more ND's than I am when one does occur, especially among cops.

jbirds1210 wrote:

Liberty wrote:

TacShot wrote:GLOCKS don't people! People shoot people, sometimes themselves.

You got to admit though that some guns just make it easier for things like this to happen.

I don't get this. You are either safe.....or you are dangerous. Does it really have anything to do with the gun? I am not trying to offend, but I refuse to let a .30 cent plastic safety device be the deciding factor on where or when bullets fly

Unfortunately, it sometimes is the deciding factor.