bdickens wrote:Arrrrgghhh! No! Not the warning shot! Could we put that to bed already?
Drugged out person. What do you do?
Moderators: carlson1, Charles L. Cotton
- Oldgringo
- Senior Member
- Posts: 11203
- Joined: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:15 pm
- Location: Pineywoods of east Texas
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
I think a "warning shot" could be a nail in your coffin. "Your honor, if the defendant truly feared for his life then why would he waste time with a warning shot, giving the assailant more time and opportunity as well as escalating the seriousness of the situation in stead of diffusing it."
- flb_78
- Senior Member
- Posts: 1277
- Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2007 11:17 am
- Location: Gravel Switch, KY
- Contact:
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
A warning shot is a waste of good ammunition.
http://www.AmarilloGunOwners.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- flintknapper
- Banned
- Posts: 4962
- Joined: Sat Dec 03, 2005 8:40 pm
- Location: Deep East Texas
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
flb_78 wrote:A warning shot is a waste of good ammunition.
All "warning shots" should be made Center Mass or Cranial Ocular.
Spartans ask not how many, but where!
- Oldgringo
- Senior Member
- Posts: 11203
- Joined: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:15 pm
- Location: Pineywoods of east Texas
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Well, fellow shooters and defenders of the faith, there is one thing we all apparently agree on: if you shoot someone, you are going to see His/Her Honor - sooner or later. All of the rest is rhetoric, speculation and hypothetical bull
Here endeth the lesson.
Here endeth the lesson.
- anygunanywhere
- Senior Member
- Posts: 7877
- Joined: Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:16 am
- Location: Richmond, Texas
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
You can also rack the slide of your pistol before you fire the warning shot.That will add drama to the act like it does in the movies and TV.
Anygunanywhere
Anygunanywhere
"When democracy turns to tyranny, the armed citizen still gets to vote." Mike Vanderboegh
"The Smallest Minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." – Ayn Rand
"The Smallest Minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." – Ayn Rand
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
I'm confused.oldgringo wrote:Yepper, I was waiting for that...again.A warning shot doesn't have to be fired into the air. It can be fired into the ground, a tree, a leg, a trash can, a flower pot or vertically into the sidewalk, whatever is available - except an innocent bystander. The actor is trying to avert a deadly force situation. If it can't be averted,
.
Whose leg did you have in mind for that "warning shot" - yours or the antagonist's?
That "vertically into the sidewalk" shot might well produce the same results.
While warning shot tactics in any shape or form may sound good after a few beers at a meeting of the local armchair commandos club, there are lots of non hypothetical good reasons why armed professionals don't engage in these practices. Many of these have been discussed at length in other threads on this forum.
Excaliber
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - Jeff Cooper
I am not a lawyer. Nothing in any of my posts should be construed as legal or professional advice.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - Jeff Cooper
I am not a lawyer. Nothing in any of my posts should be construed as legal or professional advice.
- Oldgringo
- Senior Member
- Posts: 11203
- Joined: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:15 pm
- Location: Pineywoods of east Texas
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
That said, I hope I never have to face a shoot or don't shoot situation in real life. If one shoots one, one will have to explain one's actions to His/Her Honor and perhaps 12 of one's peers - sooner or later
"Don't Tread On Me"
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Besides, shooing off those Gold Dots can get expensive. Gotta make every round count!
Byron Dickens
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Oldgringo,Oldgringo wrote:I just looked up 'warning shots' on a police forum and it appears that y'all may know more about the advisability of 'warning shots' than I do.
![]()
That said, I hope I never have to face a shoot or don't shoot situation in real life. If one shoots one, one will have to explain one's actions to His/Her Honor and perhaps 12 of one's peers - sooner or laterand that won't be cheap.
"Don't Tread On Me"
We're all here to learn.
If our discussions and critiques can help each other be better prepared for bad situations and to make better decisions when we encounter them, our time spent here will have been a most worthwhile investment.
I commend you for not just taking some of the members' word (my own included) for the advisability of warning shots, and for taking the initiative to find other reliable sources to confirm or negate what's been said. That's the reasonable man's approach to making sure his beliefs are well grounded, and not just based on the last thing he read or heard.
Sharing this information on the forum is the best way to make sure we all operate on the best information available to any one of us.
Last edited by Excaliber on Wed Dec 10, 2008 1:02 pm, edited 2 times in total.
Excaliber
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - Jeff Cooper
I am not a lawyer. Nothing in any of my posts should be construed as legal or professional advice.
"An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it." - Jeff Cooper
I am not a lawyer. Nothing in any of my posts should be construed as legal or professional advice.
- Oldgringo
- Senior Member
- Posts: 11203
- Joined: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:15 pm
- Location: Pineywoods of east Texas
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
Excaliber wrote:Oldgringo,Oldgringo wrote:I just looked up 'warning shots' on a police forum and it appears that y'all may know more about the advisability of 'warning shots' than I do.
![]()
That said, I hope I never have to face a shoot or don't shoot situation in real life. If one shoots one, one will have to explain one's actions to His/Her Honor and perhaps 12 of one's peers - sooner or laterand that won't be cheap.
"Don't Tread On Me"
We're all here to learn.
If our discussions and critiques can help each other be better prepared for bad situations and to make better decisions when we encounter them, our time spent here will have been a most worthwhile investment.
I commend you for not just taking some of the members' word (my own included) for the advisability of warning shots, and for taking the initiative to find other reliable sources to confirm or negate what's been said. That's the reasonable man's approach to making sure his beliefs are well grounded, and not just based on the last thing he read or heard.
Sharing this information on the forum is the best way to make sure we all operate on the best information available to any one of us.
The fact of the matter is: none of us are going to know what we're going to do until we do it. While every situation of this sort is the same - they are all different. For example, Gun Rule No. 4 - Be sure of your target and what's beyond it. One can not be over prepared for such encounters and one must be situationally aware at all times. Afterall, the life you save may be mine.
-
DoubleActionCHL
- Senior Member
- Posts: 461
- Joined: Wed Sep 26, 2007 3:12 pm
Re: Drugged out person. What do you do?
When carrying a semi-auto, there is only one round you can really count on, and that's the one in the pipe. Why would you waste it in the air or dirt, risking a malfunction that could take you out of the fight... permanently?
http://www.doubleactionchl.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Houston, Texas
"Excuses are for tombstones. Get back in the fight."
--Me