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Wildscar wrote:With the right gear the Beretta can be concealed. Just take a look at my signature. Yes it big and lardge but not impossiable to conceal.

I have a 92 Elite.

Very reliable, the pistol feels good in my hand . . . but for some reason it just doesn't group as well for me as any of a number of other pistols.

I am an instructor at the second busiest range in the Air Force and we have thousands upon thousands of students that roll through every year. I can say that the 92fs is a reliable and accurate gun, however it has atleast one major flaw. On the barrel assembly is a falling locking block that locks the barrel to the frame in the cycle of operations. On the falling locking block are two wings and they are very prone to being sheared off. I would say once every 3 weeks or so one snaps off, which completely locks down the gun until it can be disassembled and the falling locking block can be replaced.

The other big thing I dont like about it is the fact that the front sight post is a part of the slide.

Just my two cents.

AFJailor wrote:I am an instructor at the second busiest range in the Air Force and we have thousands upon thousands of students that roll through every year. I can say that the 92fs is a reliable and accurate gun, however it has atleast one major flaw. On the barrel assembly is a falling locking block that locks the barrel to the frame in the cycle of operations. On the falling locking block are two wings and they are very prone to being sheared off. I would say once every 3 weeks or so one snaps off, which completely locks down the gun until it can be disassembled and the falling locking block can be replaced.

The other big thing I dont like about it is the fact that the front sight post is a part of the slide.

Just my two cents.

It looks to me with the number of rounds you must go through that 17 failures is a pretty reliable handgun. I pulled the detail a couple of times assisting requalify with the 1911, We only qualified 5 or 6 at a time. and we always had at least gun give up the ghost every time.

I should also say that these 99% of our shooters are Military and as anyone that has served can tell you...we are very very good at breaking stuff.

AFJailor wrote:I should also say that these 99% of our shooters are Military and as anyone that has served can tell you...we are very very good at breaking stuff.

That couldn't be more true.

I am now a weapons intructor for the Navy Master-At-Arms course at Lackland AFB and we go through quite a few locking blocks due to the number of people firing the weapons all the time.

I personally don't like them for carry because they are too bulky for me. Having said that though, they are extremely accurate and I am looking for one now so I can practice teaching the M9 course at home.

How much hassle is it to replace the block. Is it worthwhile to have a spare on hand? Supposedly the newer p92s get longer performance out of the blocks

It's not very hard at all to change them out if you do the inspections and catch the problem before it breaks while firing. It's a little tricky (for lack of a better word) at times getting everything to line up but it's not that hard. I wouldn't necessarily have an extra one on hand until I had shot quite a few rounds through it. Please understand these guns I am talking about get shot almost daily and multiple times during that day. This puts an amazing amount of rounds through the gun yearly and something is bound to give way. That is the weakest part of the gun internally so that's what goes. I don't personnaly like that design and, like I said earlier, it is too bulky for me but I can't say it's not a good gun. It is, just not one of my personal favorites.

No tools are needed to replace it, just a little finagling. (sp?)

My wife loves the 92fs. It is large for her hands, but the ease of racking the slide, the mild recoil and the accuracy supercede the size issue. It serves as her nightstand gun. She is going shopping for purses tomorrow to fit the gun (oh my god). I believe the shopping for purse process will entertain her as much as shooting the gun. But hey, she likes guns.

Mcoupe wrote:My wife loves the 92fs. It is large for her hands, but the ease of racking the slide, the mild recoil and the accuracy supercede the size issue. It serves as her nightstand gun. She is going shopping for purses tomorrow to fit the gun (oh my god). I believe the shopping for purse process will entertain her as much as shooting the gun. But hey, she likes guns.

Can't beat that!!!

The newer radiused locking blocks withstand allot more abuse than the older non-radiused ones. Even so, the older ones would usually last at least 20k rounds IF they failed. I've found the 92 to be as reliable as other major Mfr's pistols including Glock, HK, Sig....ect........

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