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Re: Texas trails SC in restoring 2A Freedom

Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:52 pm
by anygunanywhere
Conagher wrote:
anygunanywhere wrote:
Conagher wrote:Thanks to everyone that replied. I appreciate everyone’s well thought out, germane and focused reply. I have a follow-up question for you:

Come September 1st, do you believe SC will be exercising their newly regained freedom while us Texans are still squabbling over the who’s, what’s and how’s?
There are quite a few states that have less restrictive firearms laws than Texas and striving to regain our infringed freedoms here is our goal. To go along with my previous post, with the possible exception of this single issue, SC is not my idea of a truly free state with respect to firearms freedom.

If your idea of firearms nirvana is South Carolina then more power to you.

How many states are they reciprocal with? I remember! Only the ones the South Carolina Highway Patrol thinks are deserving of reciprocity. I believe our backwards law of mandating our fine attorney general to seek and establish reciprocity agreements is quite neanderthal compared to SC.

Anygunanywhere

Thanks for the response but after reading it a couple times I'm still not sure what your answer was to the referenced question, was it "yes" or "no"?

Thanks!
My response to your question makes as much sense as your request for an answer, and your question is based on your unstated stance that SC is a much more desirable setting for exercising one's second amendment rights and that the SC folks have a much more civilized and efficient means of enacting legislation.

I lived in South Carolina for five years and have visited the state several times since so I know better.

Anygunanywhere

Re: Texas trails SC in restoring 2A Freedom

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:22 am
by Conagher
[quote="Morgan


The problem is your question makes an assumption - that SC will be exercising newly regained freedom. Your question should have been posed thusly:

Do you believe SC will be exercising newly regained freedom? And if so, do you believe TX will still be squabbling?

Clearly, anyone reading his reply can see that his answer to the first question is "No" and therefore the second question isn't asked.

A better question is, "In Texas, will someone propose an open carry bill that won't screw gun owners in Texas?" Because anyone who supports a gun bill in Texas that screws Texas gun owners isn't doing gun owners any favors, I'm sure you must agree.[/quote]

So, are you answering "no" for seamus, or are you answering "no" for yourself and I should wait for seamus to provide his own response?

Thanks!

Re: Texas trails SC in restoring 2A Freedom

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:26 am
by Conagher
anygunanywhere wrote: My response to your question makes as much sense as your request for an answer, and your question is based on your unstated stance that SC is a much more desirable setting for exercising one's second amendment rights and that the SC folks have a much more civilized and efficient means of enacting legislation.

I lived in South Carolina for five years and have visited the state several times since so I know better.

Anygunanywhere
Wow, feel like a rubber band the way you stretched my words. No matter; I'll record your answer as "no" and we can move on. Have a nice day!

Re: Texas trails SC in restoring 2A Freedom

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:30 am
by seamusTX
I wrote, "I would not bet that open carry is going to be legal in South Carolina in the foreseeable future."

That's as definite an answer as you'll get out of me. If I could predict the future with certainty, I would bet on the trifecta at Churchhill Downs and retire.

I asked you some questions about the legislative strategy behind H. 3003 in South Carolina. Do you know the answers?

- Jim

Re: Texas trails SC in restoring 2A Freedom

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 12:15 pm
by Morgan
Conagher wrote:[quote="Morgan


The problem is your question makes an assumption - that SC will be exercising newly regained freedom. Your question should have been posed thusly:

Do you believe SC will be exercising newly regained freedom? And if so, do you believe TX will still be squabbling?

Clearly, anyone reading his reply can see that his answer to the first question is "No" and therefore the second question isn't asked.

A better question is, "In Texas, will someone propose an open carry bill that won't screw gun owners in Texas?" Because anyone who supports a gun bill in Texas that screws Texas gun owners isn't doing gun owners any favors, I'm sure you must agree.
So, are you answering "no" for seamus, or are you answering "no" for yourself and I should wait for seamus to provide his own response?

Thanks![/quote]


I don't mean to offend, but do you read what you quote and question? I clearly said, "Clearly, anyone reading his reply can see that his answer to the first question is "No" and therefore the second question isn't asked."

Re: Texas trails SC in restoring 2A Freedom

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:24 pm
by Conagher
seamusTX wrote:I wrote, "I would not bet that open carry is going to be legal in South Carolina in the foreseeable future."

That's as definite an answer as you'll get out of me. If I could predict the future with certainty, I would bet on the trifecta at Churchhill Downs and retire.

I asked you some questions about the legislative strategy behind H. 3003 in South Carolina. Do you know the answers?

- Jim
Thanks for the reply Jim. Answer to your question above is "no".

Re: Texas trails SC in restoring 2A Freedom

Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 1:26 pm
by Conagher
Morgan wrote:
Conagher wrote:[quote="Morgan


The problem is your question makes an assumption - that SC will be exercising newly regained freedom. Your question should have been posed thusly:

Do you believe SC will be exercising newly regained freedom? And if so, do you believe TX will still be squabbling?

Clearly, anyone reading his reply can see that his answer to the first question is "No" and therefore the second question isn't asked.

A better question is, "In Texas, will someone propose an open carry bill that won't screw gun owners in Texas?" Because anyone who supports a gun bill in Texas that screws Texas gun owners isn't doing gun owners any favors, I'm sure you must agree.
So, are you answering "no" for seamus, or are you answering "no" for yourself and I should wait for seamus to provide his own response?

Thanks!



I don't mean to offend, but do you read what you quote and question? I clearly said, "Clearly, anyone reading his reply can see that his answer to the first question is "No" and therefore the second question isn't asked."[/quote]

Thanks for your reply Morgan. The answer to your question above is "yes". Have a nice day!

Re: Texas trails SC in restoring 2A Freedom

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:58 pm
by AWB09
Conagher wrote:
AWB09 wrote:
Conagher wrote:Thanks to everyone that replied. I appreciate everyone’s well thought out, germane and focused reply. I have a follow-up question for you:

Come September 1st, do you believe SC will be exercising their newly regained freedom while us Texans are still squabbling over the who’s, what’s and how’s?
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Sorry, but I seem to have missed your answer to the question; was that a "yes" or a "no"?

Thanks!
I think registering ammunition is a big step away from freedom so my answer is no.

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