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Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:07 pm
by txflyer
If I'm not mistaken isn't the P40 on the PRK (People's Republic of Kalifornia) approved list?
I thought they did a drop test. If so, guess the test ain't all that accurate.
Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:05 am
by Liberty
flintknapper wrote:Ace_Inthe_O wrote:Does a 1911 not have a hammer block?
All 1911's have a thumb safety and a grip safety (some models add a firing pin safety as well).
A properly functioning 1911 should not discharge from a drop...such as described in this event.
For an 1911 to go off when dropped...it would have to be one without a firing pin safety, it would need to hit on the muzzle/slide nearly perpendicular with the floor, and it would have to do so with enough inertia to overcome the firing pin spring. The second way this could happen...would be for the weapon to land on the hammer with enough force to shear both the hammer hooks and sear (unlikely, but not impossible with todays MIM parts).
I was thinking of older 1911s that with worn sears. Older 1911s didn't have the the safey pin block. There was a report here not to long ago of a Rock Island going off after being dropped .
Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 8:12 am
by flintknapper
Liberty wrote:flintknapper wrote:Ace_Inthe_O wrote:Does a 1911 not have a hammer block?
All 1911's have a thumb safety and a grip safety (some models add a firing pin safety as well).
A properly functioning 1911 should not discharge from a drop...such as described in this event.
For an 1911 to go off when dropped...it would have to be one without a firing pin safety, it would need to hit on the muzzle/slide nearly perpendicular with the floor, and it would have to do so with enough inertia to overcome the firing pin spring. The second way this could happen...would be for the weapon to land on the hammer with enough force to shear both the hammer hooks and sear (unlikely, but not impossible with todays MIM parts).
I was thinking of older 1911s that with worn sears. Older 1911s didn't have the the safey pin block. There was a report here not to long ago of a Rock Island going off after being dropped .
That was the reason for this statement:
Flint wrote:
A properly functioning 1911 should not discharge from a drop...such as described in this event.
It is every gun owners responsibility to recognize and ensure that their firearms are in good working order.
Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2009 11:09 am
by barres
XtremeDuty.45 wrote:RiverRat wrote:I always considered a carried gun safest secured in the holster with the trigger covered. Much lower risk. I will amend that thought to include "with holster well secured".
I bet when it went off it scared the crap outta him...

Well, thankfully for him, the story says he was pulling his pants up, so there wasn't any to scare out of him.

Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 12:28 am
by DONT TREAD ON ME
good point!
Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:11 pm
by bryang
I am sure that little incident ruined his day, not to mention the fact that he shot a toilet.
I don't know about ya'll, but I keep my hand on my gun, holster, and belt when I pull my paints up. However, I avoid public restrooms like a plague.
-geo
Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2009 9:49 pm
by DONT TREAD ON ME
I avoid them cause they carry the plague!!!
Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 2:23 pm
by hheremtp
XtremeDuty.45 wrote:I avoid them cause they carry the plague!!!
lol

Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:35 pm
by SC1903A3
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Restroom requiem: 'It was a good toilet' gunned down in line of 'doody
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Restroom requiem: 'It was a good toilet' gunned down in line of 'doody'
Centerville hamburger joint offers commode consolation
By Kathy Stephenson
The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 01/29/2009 08:13:03 AM MST
What should you do when your toilet dies in the line of "doody"? Have a funeral, of course.
On Friday at 10 a.m., the Carl's Jr. restaurant in Centerville will have a "moment of silence" for the potty that was destroyed last week when a patron's handgun fell out of the holster and fired as he was hitching up his pants.
The bullet shattered the toilet and sent sharp shards into the man's arm. The 26-year-old, who had a concealed-weapons permit, was treated at the scene for minor injuries.
But the "john" was destroyed, and the national hamburger chain is feeling the loss. "By all accounts, it was a good toilet; reliable and well liked by customers and crew members alike," wrote Brad Haley, executive vice president
blasted commode
The late, well-liked and oft-visited deceased. (Tribune file photo)
of Carl's Jr. marketing, in a tongue-in-cheek note posted on the company's Facebook page.
"It seems only fitting to have a formal service to let everyone say goodbye to such a critical member of our team that was in very close contact with the public each and every day," Haley eulogized. "Our thoughts go out to the surviving men's room urinal and porcelain sink. We only hope that the new toilet can fill the void left by its predecessor, but so far it hasn't made much of a splash."
The outpouring from the community has been overwhelming, said Carl's Jr. manager Christian Martinez. "We have received e-mails and cards from all over the country expressing condolences for our loss," he said. "People will have the chance to say goodbye in their own way at the memorial service."
Employees at the restaurant, 385 N. 800 West, will hand out bottles of Kaboom® Bowl Blaster toilet cleaner to the first 50 funeral attendees, he said, as "it was the toilet's favorite."
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_11574397
Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2009 10:24 pm
by Keith B
SC1903A3 wrote:'
Restroom requiem: 'It was a good toilet' gunned down in line of 'doody
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Restroom requiem: 'It was a good toilet' gunned down in line of 'doody'
Centerville hamburger joint offers commode consolation
By Kathy Stephenson
The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 01/29/2009 08:13:03 AM MST
What should you do when your toilet dies in the line of "doody"? Have a funeral, of course.
On Friday at 10 a.m., the Carl's Jr. restaurant in Centerville will have a "moment of silence" for the potty that was destroyed last week when a patron's handgun fell out of the holster and fired as he was hitching up his pants.
The bullet shattered the toilet and sent sharp shards into the man's arm. The 26-year-old, who had a concealed-weapons permit, was treated at the scene for minor injuries.
But the "john" was destroyed, and the national hamburger chain is feeling the loss. "By all accounts, it was a good toilet; reliable and well liked by customers and crew members alike," wrote Brad Haley, executive vice president
blasted commode
The late, well-liked and oft-visited deceased. (Tribune file photo)
of Carl's Jr. marketing, in a tongue-in-cheek note posted on the company's Facebook page.
"It seems only fitting to have a formal service to let everyone say goodbye to such a critical member of our team that was in very close contact with the public each and every day," Haley eulogized. "Our thoughts go out to the surviving men's room urinal and porcelain sink. We only hope that the new toilet can fill the void left by its predecessor, but so far it hasn't made much of a splash."
The outpouring from the community has been overwhelming, said Carl's Jr. manager Christian Martinez. "We have received e-mails and cards from all over the country expressing condolences for our loss," he said. "People will have the chance to say goodbye in their own way at the memorial service."
Employees at the restaurant, 385 N. 800 West, will hand out bottles of Kaboom® Bowl Blaster toilet cleaner to the first 50 funeral attendees, he said, as "it was the toilet's favorite."
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_11574397
Now that's just wrong.

Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2009 1:40 pm
by DONT TREAD ON ME
wow
Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 1:22 pm
by dukalmighty
Now that there is funny,And I'm the guy that had a RIA 1911 discharge after a drop caused by the firing pin striking the primer after about a 3 ft fall straight on the muzzle,I replaced the firing pin spring with a stronger spring to prevent a chance of it happening in the future.tile flooring doesn't like to get shot either
Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 4:43 pm
by NcongruNt
Keith B wrote:SC1903A3 wrote:'
Restroom requiem: 'It was a good toilet' gunned down in line of 'doody
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Restroom requiem: 'It was a good toilet' gunned down in line of 'doody'
Centerville hamburger joint offers commode consolation
By Kathy Stephenson
The Salt Lake Tribune
Updated: 01/29/2009 08:13:03 AM MST
What should you do when your toilet dies in the line of "doody"? Have a funeral, of course.
On Friday at 10 a.m., the Carl's Jr. restaurant in Centerville will have a "moment of silence" for the potty that was destroyed last week when a patron's handgun fell out of the holster and fired as he was hitching up his pants.
The bullet shattered the toilet and sent sharp shards into the man's arm. The 26-year-old, who had a concealed-weapons permit, was treated at the scene for minor injuries.
But the "john" was destroyed, and the national hamburger chain is feeling the loss. "By all accounts, it was a good toilet; reliable and well liked by customers and crew members alike," wrote Brad Haley, executive vice president
blasted commode
The late, well-liked and oft-visited deceased. (Tribune file photo)
of Carl's Jr. marketing, in a tongue-in-cheek note posted on the company's Facebook page.
"It seems only fitting to have a formal service to let everyone say goodbye to such a critical member of our team that was in very close contact with the public each and every day," Haley eulogized. "Our thoughts go out to the surviving men's room urinal and porcelain sink. We only hope that the new toilet can fill the void left by its predecessor, but so far it hasn't made much of a splash."
The outpouring from the community has been overwhelming, said Carl's Jr. manager Christian Martinez. "We have received e-mails and cards from all over the country expressing condolences for our loss," he said. "People will have the chance to say goodbye in their own way at the memorial service."
Employees at the restaurant, 385 N. 800 West, will hand out bottles of Kaboom® Bowl Blaster toilet cleaner to the first 50 funeral attendees, he said, as "it was the toilet's favorite."
http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_11574397
Now that's just wrong.

Actually, I think it's just right. The fact that the paper isn't running an OMG DANGEROUS HANDGUNS!!! story, but rather an entertaining humor piece is refreshing. While ADs are serious, no bystanders were hurt, and I'm quite sure the guy learned his lesson. That is where it should end, and that's where this newspaper left it. I applaud them.

Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 5:29 pm
by Keith B
NcongruNt wrote:Keith B wrote:
Now that's just wrong.

Actually, I think it's just right. The fact that the paper isn't running an OMG DANGEROUS HANDGUNS!!! story, but rather an entertaining humor piece is refreshing. While ADs are serious, no bystanders were hurt, and I'm quite sure the guy learned his lesson. That is where it should end, and that's where this newspaper left it. I applaud them.

Oh, I agree. Glad to see they have not tried to blow it out of proportion, but think it is a little overbaord on Carl's Jr. to turn it around as advertising.

Re: Man Accidentally Shoots Toilet...Plexico round 2
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:30 pm
by jhutto
must have been an ugly plastic gun :)
