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Re: CHL fatally shoots teenage burglary suspect

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:26 pm
by KD5NRH
Kawabuggy wrote:Here's a thought-if a CHL holder is involved with a good (legal) shoot wherein the perpetrator is a minor, and the CHL holder has to go before the grand jury, it should be his/her right to SUE the parents of dead dirt-bag to pay for his/her legal defense. In my mind, you raise a criminal, YOU are the responsible person and should be held accountable for the actions of your minor child.
I still say that if you want to fix it, just make responsibility attach to the entitlement; if they want to claim entitlement for anything that happened to their pet scumbag, they also have to accept full civil and criminal liability for his actions that led to it. Further require that they serve any sentence in full and pay any civil judgement in full before they can receive anything back.

Somehow, I doubt they'd be willing to sit out his burglary sentence and pay for any damages he incurred on the remote chance that they might get anything back.

Re: CHL fatally shoots teenage burglary suspect

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:22 pm
by Liberty
Kawabuggy wrote:
Why is that the families of dead dirt-bags always come out of the wood work expecting to be "paid" for the loss of their childs life?
Is there some indication that this is going to happen in this case? I would be very surprised if a lawyer could be found to take up a suit in this case. We keep hearing how often these suits happen in Texas. Yet I hardly ever have seen a civil suit go through in a justified self defense. This is Texas , New York rules don't apply.

Re: CHL fatally shoots teenage burglary suspect

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:11 am
by srothstein
bridge wrote:Not that I disagree with making the parents of scum-bag minors responsible for their actions, I do...but I don't think 17 is a minor in Texas. I believe you are an adult at 17 in the eyes of our state government. I think. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure.
Well, actually, it kind of depends on which area of the law youa re looking at. The Alcoholic Beverage Code defines a minor as someone under 21. CopOnce told you the truth about being an adult for the Penal Code. You get adult punishments if you are 17. But, various other sections of the law define child or minor or juvenile as different ages, from 14 to 21.

For the purposes of liability (civil practices and tort), I think you are a minor until 18. I base this on the definitions of being under a disability in Chapter 16, limitations. Not being a lawyer, I could be wrong in my reading.

Re: CHL fatally shoots teenage burglary suspect

Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 5:50 am
by stevie_d_64
Homicide = Grand Jury...

Regardless if it looks like a "good shoot" or not...

At least that is what I have seen to be the case pretty much across the country...

No matter how the "media" poorly (and notoriously) portrays these incidents, I actually feel pretty comfortable with the realities of this particular part of the legal process...Even if I had to endure it...I'm serious about that...

It is overbearing for some people, take Joe Horn for instance, but he kinda dug his own hole, but made it thru the process...

What is good is that we all learn from these incidents, and govern our passions accordingly...