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Re: 6 Guns Confiscated

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:50 pm
by Sangiovese
Sounds like a really lousy situation... hope everything turns out for the best for your family.

One note about them not reading your mom her rights. The Miranda warning is only required when someone is: (a) detained and (b) questioned by police.

They can question you without having to inform you of your rights unless you are being detained/arrested. They can arrest/detain you without ever reading you your rights as long as they don't interrogate you.

In this case, it sounds like she was questioned before she was arrested/detained... so they would not have needed to read her rights then. And after she was arrested, they wouldn't need to question her, since she had already told them what they were interested in.

As the ol' spiel goes... anything you say can and will be used against you... and they don't need to warn you about that if they aren't specifically asking you questions, while you are being detained.

Again, hope it all gets worked out. Sounds like the gun confiscation was bogus... but probably not unlawful since your step-dad (I think that's the relation.. apologies if I got it wrong) voluntarily surrendered them. I would hope that in his position I would have told them that they needed a warrant if they wanted to go in my gun safe... but for us law abiding types, it's a natural inclination for us to comply with authority - especially in a stressful situation... so I can certainly understand why he complied.

Best wishes for a good resolution of the situation.

Re: 6 Guns Confiscated

Posted: Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:42 pm
by Locksmith
No longer valid

Re: 6 Guns Confiscated

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:49 pm
by Locksmith
No longer valid

Re: 6 Guns Confiscated

Posted: Sat Jun 13, 2009 10:57 pm
by joe817
That IS good news. Thank goodness the court system worked the way it's supposed to(in this case).
I know how relieved they are.....and you too. Thank God you convinced them to get a good lawyer.
Glad it turned out well for them.
I pray for your sister's healing, what ever the issues are.

Re: 6 Guns Confiscated

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 1:30 am
by Originalist
Edited to remove foot from mouth

Re: 6 Guns Confiscated

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 3:38 pm
by Justice
If you know they have no proof, lie... This is what happens in court, so this is what you should do in front of an officer. Or better yet, tell them you don't remember what happened because of the "heated" situation.

Luckily everything worked out!

Re: 6 Guns Confiscated

Posted: Sun Jun 14, 2009 4:55 pm
by HankB
Glad things worked out, but there are some lessons to be learned here:

1. When asked whether or not she hit the sister, Mom shouldn't have admitted ANYTHING. Zip. Nada. "My name is ------, and I'm not saying anything more without an attorney."

2. Step-dad shouldn't have admitted to having guns. Shouldn't have even talked to the cops.

3. Step-dad shouldn't have admitted the cops to the house without being presented with a valid search warrant. (Mom was arrested OUTSIDE, right?)

4. Step-dad shouldn't have opened the safe.

5. When cops took guns without leaving a receipt, step-dad should've called 911 and reported an armed robbery by alleged officers.