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Re: d/a pistols

Posted: Tue Jul 21, 2009 5:17 pm
by garcia946
My main ccw is a glock 27 , love it to death I did swap the trigger to a 3.5lb vs the stock one, but I recently got a sig p229 in the 40/357 sig DA/SA and I love it even better , thinking about switching my main carry to the sig. Both the same size .

Re: d/a pistols

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:01 am
by mr.72
sawdust wrote: By the time I have acquired my 233rd firearm and have more experience, I may change my mind. :tiphat:
I doubt it, and for the very reason you stated. You have already acquired the muscle memory that makes you comfortable with a DA/SA pistol with a manual safety.

However for someone who does not have previous firearms experience, then learning to shoot a DAO pistol is easier than learning to operate the safety and then becoming reliant on a light trigger. Contrary to your experience, when I have shot a 1911 I hated it, felt like the gun was just randomly going off in my hand all the time because the trigger was uncomfortably short and light. So I think it has mostly to do with how you first learned and the muscle memory you develop under those conditions.

Since I was not handicapped by a previous expectation of a SA trigger action, I chose to go with what I considered a simpler-to-use, safer and more reliable DAO pistol for my first gun, and the next three I have bought after that were also DAO. So I am quite comfortable with DAO pistols and don't see any reason to change.

Re: d/a pistols

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:04 am
by Purplehood
I must be a pistol-spazz (don't answer that). I grew up with a .22 Magnum(?) revolver. In the military I used a Colt M1911 and Beretta M9's (over a 24 year period). As a carry I use either my Glock 27, XD-40 or MDE. I am only "comfortable" with the .40 S&W weapons. Maybe I just don't shoot enough?

Re: d/a pistols

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:11 am
by frazzled
Stupid question (but I'm a master of those):

If going DA in a concealed situation do you carry with the safety on or off?

Re: d/a pistols

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:27 am
by Rex B
mr.72 wrote: Contrary to your experience, when I have shot a 1911 I hated it, felt like the gun was just randomly going off in my hand all the time because the trigger was uncomfortably short and light. So I think it has mostly to do with how you first learned and the muscle memory you develop under those conditions.
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I had the same experience with a Bersa .380. I liked the gun, but the first DA shot was always followed by an immediate unintentional 2nd shot.
The SA trigger pull was very light. That combined with a grip length that did not fit my hands, made it dangerous in my hands. I sold it.
I've had a similar experience with a Stoeger Cougar, yet my son had no problem with it. He loved the gun, so it will probably find it's way to his house soon.

So while I like the idea of DA/SA, I have yet to find one with a trigger that I'm comfortable with.
I probably need to try a Para LDA and see how that works.

In the meantime, most all my pistols are DAO or SA

Re: d/a pistols

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 11:58 am
by joe817
frazzled wrote:Stupid question (but I'm a master of those):

If going DA in a concealed situation do you carry with the safety on or off?
The only stupid question is one that isn't asked. ;-)

I will carry in DA mode with my Ruger P-95, and feel 100% confident carrying it safely that way.

Re: d/a pistols

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 12:31 pm
by Rex B
frazzled wrote:Stupid question (but I'm a master of those):

If going DA in a concealed situation do you carry with the safety on or off?
If my DAs had a safety, I'd use it. Once in condition yellow, it's simple enough to flick it off while concealed, in anticipation of possible need.
But my normal pocket carry is DAO, no safety.

I occasionally carry a Colt Mustang (SA). I carry it hammer down on a round, safety on.
To use it, I flick the safety off (ahead of time if possible) and cock the hammer as I draw.
It's pretty easy to do that with one motion with a little practice.

Re: d/a pistols

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2009 8:50 pm
by Salty1
My favorite CCW is a Sig P250 which is DAO, I prefer this as there is no safety involved and the pull is the same everytime. The Sig trigger is very smooth all the way through and it goes bang in the same spot everytime. During the summer season I have switched to a J Frame only for ease of concealment. The bottom ine is to practice a lot and get used to the trigger, once you do you will be satisfied with whatever your choice is.