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Re: Reason to steal more guns?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:25 pm
by PUCKER
Texas State law would pre-empt that, correct?
jcutcher wrote:I did try to purchase a few guns at the Febuary program. A cop came and threatened to arrest me. He said that it is illegal to "buy", but not sell, guns in the perimeter of Downtown Dallas. I told him I did not believe him and he started the whole arrest process until I backed down. If there's anyone with more guts then me, I'll support you.
Re: Reason to steal more guns?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:32 pm
by boomerang
PUCKER wrote:Texas State law would pre-empt that, correct?
Criminals don't obey the law.
Re: Reason to steal more guns?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:43 pm
by Beiruty
PUCKER wrote:Texas State law would pre-empt that, correct?
jcutcher wrote:I did try to purchase a few guns at the Febuary program. A cop came and threatened to arrest me. He said that it is illegal to "buy", but not sell, guns in the perimeter of Downtown Dallas. I told him I did not believe him and he started the whole arrest process until I backed down. If there's anyone with more guts then me, I'll support you.
Ask him. please state the state law, city ordinance request to to talk to the city councilor
Re: Reason to steal more guns?
Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2009 4:52 pm
by Captain Matt
Jeff B. wrote:roberts wrote:Is this where the Mexican cartels are getting their guns?
Well, the city is a tad short on revenue...
Maybe they're grinding off the serial numbers and selling them to NYPD pot heads for drop guns.
Re: Reason to steal more guns?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:53 am
by KD5NRH
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These ideas are generally theoretically sound, given the prevailing theory of criminal events (Felson, 1994). Few of them have been evaluated. One specific approach that has been evaluated, gun buyback programs, suggests that there can be a major gap between theory and practice.
Gun buyback programs are based on two hypotheses. One is that the more guns in a community, the more gun violence there is. There is substantial evidence to support that claim (Reiss and Roth, 1993). The second hypothesis, however, is not supported by the evidence. That hypothesis is that offering cash for guns in a city will reduce the number of incidents in which guns are used in crime in that city. Four evaluations reviewed in Figure 4 show no effects of gun buyback programs on guns. There are several reasons why buyback programs may fail to reduce gun violence:
o they often attract guns from areas far from the program city
o they may attract guns that are kept locked up at home, rather than being carried on the street
o potential gun offenders may use the cash from the buyback program to buy a new and potentially more lethal firearm; the buyback cash value for their old gun may exceed market value substantially.
The enormous expense of these programs is instructive. When St. Louis invested $250,000 in gun buybacks in 1994, the same funds could have been used to match 250 children with Big Brothers/Big Sisters. Those 250 children would then have enjoyed about half the risk of becoming drug users, at least for the first year (Tierney and Grossman with Resch, 1995). But the opportunity cost of the programs never entered into the debate.
The scientific rigor of the buyback evaluations is not great. They can be summarized as providing moderate evidence of no effect. They fail to show effects on gun crimes relative to a comparison of trends in the same types of crimes committed without guns. Given their high cost and weak theoretical rationale, however, there seems little reason to invest in further testing of the idea.