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Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:32 am
by Abraham
I don't particularly want one.
I was issued one near the end of my military tenure and had grave misgivings...that were later proven credible. Yes, I know many of the bugs have been worked out, but for my taste they're just a rather fancy varmint rifle.
I prefer an M-14 and if they ever come available at a reasonable cost I'll buy one. They out shoot the AR in accuracy, power and with thousands of rounds down range I never had one fail me.
Plus, they're rather plain in appearance and I prefer that too.
Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:42 am
by Purplehood
I always regretted coming into the service and being too late to be issued the M-14 (April 76). I always thought that the M-14 was an attractive weapon, far from plain.
Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:11 am
by Abraham
For me, plain is attractive.
The fanciest M-14 I ever shot was set up with a bi-pod on full auto. NOT as much fun as you might guess...
Today's AR's dressed up with mocha latte machine attachments, satellite t.v. with internet connections and snooze alarms, etc., leave me cold.
Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:17 am
by The Annoyed Man
Abraham wrote:For me, plain is attractive.
And the M14
is a beautiful rifle. I would
love to own one. But the basic AR15 platform is plain too - just a different kind of plain. No, it doesn't have a wood stock - but it is plainly utilitarian. And, unless you live in a 150,000 sq ft home, the .308/7.62 NATO round is most likely too much for use as inside the home defense; whereas the .223/5.56 round is not unreasonable, even in an average home.
Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 12:13 pm
by geoelectro
The Annoyed Man wrote:Abraham wrote:For me, plain is attractive.
And the M14
is a beautiful rifle. I would
love to own one. But the basic AR15 platform is plain too - just a different kind of plain. No, it doesn't have a wood stock - but it is plainly
utilitarian.
So its a religious weapon?

Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:55 pm
by The Annoyed Man
geoelectro wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:Abraham wrote:For me, plain is attractive.
And the M14
is a beautiful rifle. I would
love to own one. But the basic AR15 platform is plain too - just a different kind of plain. No, it doesn't have a wood stock - but it is plainly
utilitarian.
So its a religious weapon?

Did I say "Unitarian?"

Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 5:08 pm
by Count
I think it's a good idea to know how to run an AR even if you don't own one. Same with an AK. If the balloon goes up, it's likely the BGs will be armed with one or the other and it's a good idea to be able to tap the enemy's logistics.
Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:57 pm
by Abraham
Please elaborate on the Balloon and it's potential elevation.
(Are people now building Balloon shelters?)
Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:01 pm
by boomerang
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=balloon+goes+up" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:16 pm
by geoelectro
The Annoyed Man wrote:geoelectro wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:Abraham wrote:For me, plain is attractive.
And the M14
is a beautiful rifle. I would
love to own one. But the basic AR15 platform is plain too - just a different kind of plain. No, it doesn't have a wood stock - but it is plainly
utilitarian.
So its a religious weapon?

Did I say "Unitarian?"

Uh oh, I may have made a rookie mistake... I may have annoyed the annoyed man.

Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:56 pm
by flintknapper
geoelectro wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:geoelectro wrote:The Annoyed Man wrote:Abraham wrote:For me, plain is attractive.
And the M14
is a beautiful rifle. I would
love to own one. But the basic AR15 platform is plain too - just a different kind of plain. No, it doesn't have a wood stock - but it is plainly
utilitarian.
So its a religious weapon?

Did I say "Unitarian?"

Uh oh, I may have made a rookie mistake... I may have annoyed the annoyed man.

I've never seen TAM "annoyed" except in a good way. Not to worry.
Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Sun Aug 09, 2009 1:07 pm
by ghostrider
The AR is fun to shoot and fun to customize and so versatile, especially with the ability to swap out different uppers on one lower.
With the right after market parts it can be a hog hunting gun:
http://www.bushmaster.com/catalog_xm15_BCWVMS20-45.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
a 50BMG rifle:
http://www.tactilite.com/index.php/shop ... gory_id=29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
a golf ball launcher:
http://www.bloomautomatic.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and now, even a crossbow:
http://www.pse-archery.com/prod.php?k=55444&u=01135" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2009 8:36 pm
by GrayHawk
I appreciate those who took the time to reply to the original post. Good or bad, nothing has been said that perks my attention either way. Guess I just saved some bucks, gonna direct my attention differently...and live without a black rifle for the time being......
Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 8:41 pm
by quoheleth
To paraphrase Mike Rowe of Ford TV commercial fame, Why an AR? "Why not!"
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Re: Why an AR?
Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2009 10:54 pm
by RebelKangaroo
For me, the AR is about options. For $1000 I can get a very good, very accurate rifle (with scope!) that shoots pretty inexpensive ammo so I can get a lot of practice in. Then for a small (under $500) fee I can transform it into a much higher power rifle that would work quite well on any game in the lower 48. If I really wanted to go cheap, I'd only need to change the barrel, bolt carrier group, and magazine to get that bigger caliber.
So for someone on a budget, I can get two great guns for a bit more than the price of one great gun. Sure, you I could get two cheaper guns for less, but nothing to match the ergonomics, customization, and ease of use of the AR.
For the record, I'm building a 5.56 and getting a 6.8 upper for hunting.