Re: Rifle POA vs POI at Close Quarters
Posted: Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:05 am
Exactly my point... CM is the best and operable point of Aim/Impact. I use 55gr Vmax in my .223 bolt action, but plan on using the same in the AR. I've seen the damage a 40gr will do to raccoons and rabbits, and I'd hate to see what it would do to a human being. Pigs as well. It's crazy the type of damage done inside without over penetration. 55gr the same thing. Nosler and Barnes do pretty well as well, from what I've heard.The Annoyed Man wrote:I think that in most situations, 1" higher or lower (or left or right) isn't going to make a bit of difference if you are shooting to center of mass with an AR15. Rifle rounds are simply devastating - even smaller lower power rounds like the 5.56/.223 - when compared to pistol rounds. I would MUCH rather be shot by a pistol than a rifle... ...if I am to be shot at all. Your bigger problem when shooting an AR, most particularly inside the home, is over-penetration if you are shooting FMJ ammo. If you are going to use an AR for inside the home defense, then some kind of soft tip/hollowpoint/frangible ammo would be the preferable load.sneedb82 wrote:So going through the scenarios, what do you think we should do with our ARs in terms of sighting in.... 25 yards is pretty much the standard, just work at practicing closer quarters shooting and muscle-memory (brain and otherwise) that we need to aim 1" higher closer than 25 yards?
This is great information... You don't find this info everyday.
Think COM in HD situations. Now, can I hit a human head sized target with my AR at any distance inside of my home? Absolutely, and easily - with precision, slow, aimed fire to an immobile target. But in a HD shooting situation, you're not likely to have that luxury, and even with an accurate weapon like an AR15, you're going to be hard pressed to hit a moving target the size of a human head. It is a lot harder than you think it is. And when you factor in other things like poor light, your own physiological reactions to the adrenaline dump, the presence of other family members (and their mental/physical conditions at the moment), and anything else which is likely to contribute to the chaos of the moment, shooting to the largest, and therefore easiest to hit, target is the only thing that makes any kind of sense. That would be the center of mass.
At least that's my 2ยข.
Like you said, i'd rather (if the situation comes to it) be shot with a pistol. A shield situation would be a difficult predicament nonetheless. I guess practicing in make shift scenarios would serve as a good thing to do from time to time to keep proficient with CQ shooting... even for animals (game)... so if the situation arises that you must shoot in a shield position with a family member serving as the BG's shield, the shot should be a little easier...
Like some SEAL told me one time... you train and train and train, and pray to go you don't have to use it. Some never do, but when they do, they better be able to commit! Words so true.