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Here is the knife I am talking about.
Well under 5.5" & under 5" unless you try to measure it above the handle.


"Sec. 46.01. DEFINITIONS.
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(6) "Illegal knife" means a:
(A) knife with a blade over five and one-half inches;
(B) hand instrument designed to cut or stab another by being thrown;
(C) dagger, including but not limited to a dirk, stiletto, and poniard;
(D) bowie knife;
(E) sword; or
(F) spear."

(6) If it does not fit the definition of illegal then it is legal.
(A) Blade is well under 5.5"
(B) Definately not designed to cut or stab by throwing
(C) Not even close to anything like a dagger, dirk stiletto, poniard
(D) No ones Bowie even approaches this design.
(E&F) Sword, spear, no way.

i was told that you start measuring where the blade is is sharpened .
if that's true , that knife would measure 4 inches .

Browning ads that one at 5". If we keep talkin & that thing keeps shrinkin I will have one to clean my fingernails by mornin light.

longtooth wrote:Browning ads that one at 5". If we keep talkin & that thing keeps shrinkin I will have one to clean my fingernails by mornin light.

i do like the Smokey the Bear ruler

Vacation Bible School about 10yrs ago we had a Forest Service Employee come talk to the kids. He handed out a BUNCH of those.

Now back on topic. This one is of historical importance.

longtooth wrote:Vacation Bible School about 10yrs ago we had a Forest Service Employee come talk to the kids. He handed out a BUNCH of those.

Now back on topic. This one is of historical importance.

i forgot the question

oh yeah , the knife thingy .

The way I was taught, a fixed blade knife is legal if the blade is 5.5 inches or less, measured from the tip of the blade to the start of the tang or grip. To be a Bowie style knife, it must have a clip point blade and the cross guard at the grip (to protect you in a fight). It is arguable that it must also be the size, but I was taught that even the little 1 inch blade mini-Bowie that is sold at the Alamo as souvenirs would come under this clause and be illegal. I was also taught that the dagger definition was a knife designed for stabbing having a point and both sides sharpened. Some argued that an ice pick type blade also can come under this definition if used as a knife, but that was a stretch of the law. Misusing a tool as a weapon may make it a deadly weapon but it would not make it a knife.

And one of the most common illegal knives found in Texas is the machete. They are all over but they are a bladed instrument with a blade longer than 5.5 inches.

I do not have any case citations for these definitions. It is just what I was taught 20 years ago in the academy. I would never have thought the court could rule an assisted opener a switchblade either though (I thought the definition of switchblade was pretty clear), so I am not sure how much good this teaching is.

Thank you sir & that is exactly the way I saw it from the start.

the whole "machete" thing makes me smile sometimes. As a land surveyor, a good sharp machete, or "Woodsman's Pal" hanging off the belt is a routine thing. We may be in the R.O.W. of the Interstate Highway, State Highway, or crossing back and forth across creeks and fences, but a machete will either be in a sheath hanging on the belt, or hand carried. I guess it's due to all the brightly colored gear we carry, even though I wear drab camo most of the year, that keeps us from looking suspicious. In the cooler weather I almost always have an old K-Bar sticking up from the leg pouch in my Carhart Bibs, and rarely remove it when I enter a cafe, Wallyworld, or anywhere else we may need to visit, with the exception of the courthouse for deed research..... hhmmmm, the county clerk's office.... yeah, that would be a place to really cause some havoc...

I miss the old days when a first grader could carry his Barlow to school, and no one got their panties in a wad.

I see that I'm in good company, longtooth. I just bought myself a fixed-blade Gerber yesterday. Still trying to figure out where to put it on my belt. Between the Hi-Power, the extra mags, belt real-estate is getting scarce. I could carry it behind the gun at like 4:00, but I'd have to be extra careful pulling it out to not expose the Hi-Power.



It's got a 3.75" blade, but it seems more substantial than that to me. It's got nice ergonomics to it, I'm relatively happy with it. Although, guessing by the price ($33), it isn't made of the best steel. I seem to remember Gerber making better quality knives in the past than they do these days.

unfortunately, Gerber has started to farm out a lot of their "consumer grade" blades to China. My son and I both carry 20 buck Gerbers as field tools now. If they break...no big loss.

surv

NcongruNt wrote:I see that I'm in good company, longtooth. I just bought myself a fixed-blade Gerber yesterday. Still trying to figure out where to put it on my belt. Between the Hi-Power, the extra mags, belt real-estate is getting scarce. I could carry it behind the gun at like 4:00, but I'd have to be extra careful pulling it out to not expose the Hi-Power.



It's got a 3.75" blade, but it seems more substantial than that to me. It's got nice ergonomics to it, I'm relatively happy with it. Although, guessing by the price ($33), it isn't made of the best steel. I seem to remember Gerber making better quality knives in the past than they do these days.

I like yours too. I use the lanyard as a simple shoulder carry. Works real good for me & quick to deploy. You do have to have a kydex sheath that will hold it upside down to carry as I do.

longtooth wrote:

NcongruNt wrote:I see that I'm in good company, longtooth. I just bought myself a fixed-blade Gerber yesterday. Still trying to figure out where to put it on my belt. Between the Hi-Power, the extra mags, belt real-estate is getting scarce. I could carry it behind the gun at like 4:00, but I'd have to be extra careful pulling it out to not expose the Hi-Power.



It's got a 3.75" blade, but it seems more substantial than that to me. It's got nice ergonomics to it, I'm relatively happy with it. Although, guessing by the price ($33), it isn't made of the best steel. I seem to remember Gerber making better quality knives in the past than they do these days.

I like yours too. I use the lanyard as a simple shoulder carry. Works real good for me & quick to deploy. You do have to have a kydex sheath that will hold it upside down to carry as I do.

Do you have a photo of how you accomplish this? This sounds like a great idea.

Do they define "bowie knife"?

A Bowie knife is a specific design, with a brass wrap on the top of the blade to prevent slipping in a knife fight. It also has a specific configuration of blade.

Since I'm very fond of tanto blade knifes, how could they be considered even bowie-type. They're Japanese inspired.

More the point, there were fixed blade knives before the Bowie.

Just asking...