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Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:58 am
by Purplehood
The Badger531 wrote:it is a 30.06 area My girlFriend emailed them and she got a reply saying that concealed fireams are NOT ALLOWED will be going to the ren Fest this comming weekend...we hope will let ya know IF it is posted 30.06

The Badger531
That is not the same as having a valid 30.06 sign posted, except for her since she actually now has gotten notice.

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:20 am
by Keith B
Purplehood wrote:
The Badger531 wrote:it is a 30.06 area My girlFriend emailed them and she got a reply saying that concealed fireams are NOT ALLOWED will be going to the ren Fest this comming weekend...we hope will let ya know IF it is posted 30.06

The Badger531
That is not the same as having a valid 30.06 sign posted, except for her since she actually now has gotten notice.
I am not sure if email legally constitutes verbal notice, and, even if it does, is the person who responded officially able to give verbal notice?

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:22 am
by Purplehood
Keith B wrote:
Purplehood wrote:
The Badger531 wrote:it is a 30.06 area My girlFriend emailed them and she got a reply saying that concealed fireams are NOT ALLOWED will be going to the ren Fest this comming weekend...we hope will let ya know IF it is posted 30.06

The Badger531
That is not the same as having a valid 30.06 sign posted, except for her since she actually now has gotten notice.
I am not sure if email legally constitutes verbal notice, and, even if it does, is the person who responded officially able to give verbal notice?
It all depends on how honest we are being with ourselves here. I simply wouldn't have asked in the first place.

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:37 am
by Keith B
Purplehood wrote:
Keith B wrote:
Purplehood wrote:
The Badger531 wrote:it is a 30.06 area My girlFriend emailed them and she got a reply saying that concealed fireams are NOT ALLOWED will be going to the ren Fest this comming weekend...we hope will let ya know IF it is posted 30.06

The Badger531
That is not the same as having a valid 30.06 sign posted, except for her since she actually now has gotten notice.
I am not sure if email legally constitutes verbal notice, and, even if it does, is the person who responded officially able to give verbal notice?
It all depends on how honest we are being with ourselves here. I simply wouldn't have asked in the first place.
Guess I don't follow the 'how honest' part. I don't disagree about not asking in the first place, but if email doesn't constitute verbal notice or the person is just some webmaster that has no true say-so over the festival and rules, then it is not legally binding. I can tell you to not carry there, but that doesn't carry any weight.

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:40 am
by Purplehood
My "assumption" from the post is that the girlfriend received an e-mail from "someone" at the Renaissance Fair. I would simply consider that response as being a valid source when it comes to notice. Just how deeply are you willing to get into who is authorized and who is not authorized to give you verbal notice? Why mess with it in the first place?

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:18 am
by bdickens
psijac wrote:I went yesterday to the one in plantersville, no 30.06 signs posted also there were not as many chainmail bikinis as my friends suggested.

The festival has been cleaned up a lot in recent years.

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 11:21 am
by bdickens
Chip wrote:
ammo two wrote:I believe the OP is referring to the one in Plantersville. I went last weekend, didn't notice any signs but I wasn't looking for them as I'm still am waiting for some news on my application.
Just got back from the Renaissance Festival in Plantersville. There is not an 'official' 30.06 sign, but there is a very clear sign at the entrance to the effect of "the King prohibits any concealed weapons" or something similar. It then goes on to talk about various knives. It doesn't mention firearms specifically.

Sorry, but the Texas State legislature has preemption even over the King.

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:05 pm
by dicion
Purplehood wrote:My "assumption" from the post is that the girlfriend received an e-mail from "someone" at the Renaissance Fair. I would simply consider that response as being a valid source when it comes to notice. Just how deeply are you willing to get into who is authorized and who is not authorized to give you verbal notice? Why mess with it in the first place?
Thing is.. unless they sent it to you in an audio recording.. email isn't verbal. it's written :mrgreen:

Written notice needs to have the proper verbage as required under 30.06, so even if the king himself emails you (OOC?) It's not binding.

Also, everyone, please do not go asking and possibly tempting them to put up the correct signage. I am planning on attending this year, and if they put up a proper sign because someone decided to 'inform' them, I will be very :mad5 :mad5 :mad5

They are the kind of organization that WILL put up the proper signage if informed of it. So DON'T Inform them of it!

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 6:41 pm
by srothstein
dicion wrote:Thing is.. unless they sent it to you in an audio recording.. email isn't verbal. it's written :mrgreen:
Technical correction again, but written notice is verbal. Verbal means that it uses words. Many people confuse the terms verbal and oral. Oral is the correct term for spoken notice.

The good news is that the law correctly states oral notice doesn't have to be specific wording. This means you are correct that the audio recording would be the specific notice required to tell her not to legally carry there.

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:01 pm
by dicion
srothstein wrote:
dicion wrote:Thing is.. unless they sent it to you in an audio recording.. email isn't verbal. it's written :mrgreen:
Technical correction again, but written notice is verbal. Verbal means that it uses words. Many people confuse the terms verbal and oral. Oral is the correct term for spoken notice.

The good news is that the law correctly states oral notice doesn't have to be specific wording. This means you are correct that the audio recording would be the specific notice required to tell her not to legally carry there.
Sorry, my bad, yes, that is what I meant, lol.

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2009 10:55 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
Y2bad4u wrote:I hope they don't post an official sign because of people asking and god forbid someone correcting them that there sign isn't legal.
I don't think you'll have to worry about Plantersville Ren Festival being posted 30.06.

That's pretty far from Early, Texas. :-)

SIA

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:13 am
by stevie_d_64
The only applicable signage we have ever seen has been the 51% signage, it is correct, posted correctly, and you need to comply with areas inside the RenFest where you see it...

I have a friend that has worked there as an entertainer for many years and she has seen it all...And agrees that this is probably the only thing that should be complied with in regards to CHL'ers...

BTW, who was it riding a motorcycle, wearing a Kilt and having a broadsword slung across the back this last weekend turning into Friendswood at the light Sunday??? Male, 6', white, bald???

My wife and I give that guy a :thumbs2: , that inspired us to go in the next couple of weeks...We weren't going this year, but that made us think of getting tickets to the King's Feast...

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:33 am
by stevie_d_64
I believe it might have been our friend "lunchbox"??? :cheers2:

"Wife-Unit" wonders why I do not wear a Kilt more often...

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 3:08 pm
by Fangs
I met a kid from Oklahoma wearing a kilt last night. In San Marcos. Idk. :confused5

Re: Renassance Festival

Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 4:27 pm
by Crossfire
stevie_d_64 wrote:"Wife-Unit" wonders why I do not wear a Kilt more often...
Cause it drives the women wild.... "rlol"