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Are those the same guys I see on TV with bearded children trying to sell us Credit Cards?Excaliber wrote:The Brits, in their current state of dissolution, would respond by banning the possession of lumber.Chuck TX wrote:If they keep going on that way, barbarians armed with 2x4's could over take the UK.
I have friend who is also from the UK and she agrees with that as well. She has her carry permit and shoots either a Kimber Ultra CDP or a Beretta 92F. Even if you narrow it down to the US I am still glad I am in Texas. I travel to the NY/NJ area and California regularly and I feel "nekked" when I go to those places without my handgun. It is amazing how quickly it becomes a routine part of getting dressed.Skydivesnake wrote:And I'm a Brit - who feels much safer in Texas, thanks very much :-)
Skydivesnake wrote:Excaliber is correct; UK crime numbers are solved, not reported. The UK govt compare the US and UK crime numbers directly (without mentioning they are apples and oranges) to 'demonstrate' that the UK has a much lower crime rate than the US, when it does not. The crime clear-up rate was 13-15% the last time I looked up the statistic, equating to a 6.5x factor that should be built into the UK numbers to (start to) correct them to US numbers. Furthermore, due to the definition of violent crime differing between the UK and US, there are some crime types that are considered 'violent' in the US, but not the UK, resulting in another under-reporting bias for the UK. Also, strings of crimes in a localized area - like if there a bunch of apartments in one building broken into in the same afternoon, or if several cars parked together are vandalized - are lumped together as a single criminal act (once they actually bust someone for it, that is).
Once you drill into the data, and correct it to account for the difference in capture and analysis, the UK numbers are quite a bit higher than the US.
I also believe that when the US vs UK numbers are compared within a discussion about gun control, the US numbers should have the data for locations that have UK-style gun laws pulled out. Doing a straight UK vs US comparison to make a point about gun control is misleading if you have data from, say, New York and Washington, D.C - which have UK-style laws - in there. Once you make THAT correction, the UK numbers are scary high. Most of the UK population don't care to investigate these numbers, and don't understand that all of the US states have different gun laws.
And I'm a Brit - who feels much safer in Texas, thanks very much :-)
chabouk wrote:I remember a joke from my childhood:
English police carry whistles instead of guns. They shout, "Stop, or I'll toot!"
Stop it, your killing me. LOL Good one.