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Re: Assault Rifle Definition

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:09 am
by bdickens
Journalist's Guide to Firearm Identification:

Re: Assault Rifle Definition

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:11 pm
by Liberty
gmckinl wrote: By U.S. Army definition, a selective-fire rifle chambered for a cartridge of intermediate power. If applied to any semi-automatic firearm regardless of its cosmetic similarity to a true assault rifle, the term is incorrect.
I don't have much confidence in the Army for getting definitions straight. They tried to tell me that my M16 isn't a gun, :roll: and you wouldn't believe what they tried to convince us what my gun was!! "rlol"

Re: Assault Rifle Definition

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:22 pm
by Beiruty
Simple,

An assault rifle is an Infantry issued standard rifle capable of suppressing enemy's fire and terminating their threats while assaulting enemy's positions. Capable of Automatic (Full and selective) fire to aid in said suppression.
M1 was an auto-loading rifle.
M16/M4 are true Assault rifle.
AK Series is a true Assault rifle
FNFAL is a true Assault rifle

Re: Assault Rifle Definition

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:45 pm
by mgood
Liberty wrote:They tried to tell me that my M16 isn't a gun, :roll: and you wouldn't believe what they tried to convince us what my gun was!! "rlol"
:lol::

Re: Assault Rifle Definition

Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 9:54 pm
by jimlongley
Beiruty wrote:Simple,

An assault rifle is an Infantry issued standard rifle capable of suppressing enemy's fire and terminating their threats while assaulting enemy's positions. Capable of Automatic (Full and selective) fire to aid in said suppression.
M1 was an auto-loading rifle.
M16/M4 are true Assault rifle.
AK Series is a true Assault rifle
FNFAL is a true Assault rifle
You left a lot out of that. An M1 Garand is (was) a "Battle Rifle" as was the Springfield '03, and the Mauser '98k and others. They fire(d) a full size cartridge.

Submachineguns fired pistol size cartridges, full auto. The M1 Carbine is an orphan, firing a pistol size cartridge, semi-auto.

Assault Rifle is a corruption of sturmgewehr (storm rifle), using assault instead of storm, from the Sturmgewehr 44 which Germany fielded during WWII, the first nation to issue a full automatic intermediate size cartridge weapon to troops in general.

These days the US does not routinely issue a battle rifle.

I would disagree with characterizing an FNFAL, which fires a full size cartridge, as an Assault Rifle, it is a Battle Rifle.

After all, we are talking strict definitions here, aren't we?

Re: Assault Rifle Definition

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:14 am
by quidni
I have no assault rifles.

I do, however, have sport-utility rifles.

Re: Assault Rifle Definition

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:34 am
by mgood
My rifles never assaulted anyone, but they might be useful in repelling an assault.

Re: Assault Rifle Definition

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:26 am
by gmckinl
jimlongley wrote:
Beiruty wrote:Simple,

FNFAL is a true Assault rifle
I would disagree with characterizing an FNFAL, which fires a full size cartridge, as an Assault Rifle, it is a Battle Rifle.

After all, we are talking strict definitions here, aren't we?
You are correct Jim, for the reason you stated. Nor is the M14 or HK G3 for the same reason. :fire

Re: Assault Rifle Definition

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:40 am
by Purplehood
Liberty wrote:
gmckinl wrote: By U.S. Army definition, a selective-fire rifle chambered for a cartridge of intermediate power. If applied to any semi-automatic firearm regardless of its cosmetic similarity to a true assault rifle, the term is incorrect.
I don't have much confidence in the Army for getting definitions straight. They tried to tell me that my M16 isn't a gun, :roll: and you wouldn't believe what they tried to convince us what my gun was!! "rlol"
I believe you.

Re: Assault Rifle Definition

Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 2:21 pm
by gregthehand
It has the the thing that goes up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ospNRk2uM3U