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Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:32 am
by Purplehood
Bush/Cheney was most definitely an extremist team. They almost single-handedly drove us back into the Cold War.
Now we have Obama going the exact opposite way.
I for one would truly love to see a middle-of-the-road candidate. Palin is not it.
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:12 am
by Zee
I openly admit I lean toward the Republican general ideas but the actions are not even close. A lot of the left-leaning talk is a little too left for me but in practice I think its closer to what I feel OK with. Actions are far more important to me than talk.
Its like the saying, some Christians give Christ a bad name. Some Right/ Left give the Republicans/ Democrats a bad name.
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 1:46 pm
by MechAg94
Purplehood wrote:Bush/Cheney was most definitely an extremist team. They almost single-handedly drove us back into the Cold War.
Now we have Obama going the exact opposite way.
I for one would truly love to see a middle-of-the-road candidate. Palin is not it.
Obama is making the US look weaker every day. That will create a new cold war and encourage attacks on us more than anything Bush ever did. We didn't win the first cold war by apologizing. My opinion at least. :)
I think Palin is doing all this for herself. As stated above, her family is not wealthy and does not have the resources to deal with all the legal issues people threw at her. If she can make money with a book and doing speaking engagements, more power to her.
However, when you look at raising money and stuff, she is being asked to come speak a lot of events for local Republicans and she is being successful at helping raise money for them. That is not what someone does if they are truly a castoff who was dragging down a campaign.
The Democrats and their media allies would love for everyone to think less of her. They certainly have put a great deal of effort into trying to run her down. If she truly was incompetent and worthless, they would simply ignore her. If it wasn't for the media hatchet job attempts, I probably would be more critical of her.
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:02 pm
by The Annoyed Man
austinrealtor wrote:She sounds like a woman who's trying to become a conservative "personality" or "celebrity" like Rush Limbagh or Glen Beck. I'll bet she has a talk show (probably radio, but I'd prefer TV

) within a year.
Maybe she'll become the GOP's "Geraldine Ferraro."

Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:08 pm
by chabouk
I heard today on the radio (haven't had time to verify it) that the Associated Press assigned 11 reporters to fact-check Palin's book page by page. Number of AP fact-checkers assigned to books by Kennedy, Obama, or the Clintons? Zero.
Edit to add:
http://www.theweek.com/article/index/10 ... arah_Palin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:20 pm
by Zee
chabouk wrote:I heard today on the radio (haven't had time to verify it) that the Associated Press assigned 11 reporters to fact-check Palin's book page by page. Number of AP fact-checkers assigned to books by Kennedy, Obama, or the Clintons? Zero.
Edit to add:
http://www.theweek.com/article/index/10 ... arah_Palin" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Considering how unfair and all this is I hope Palin kept this in mind and used facts over fiction.
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 4:53 pm
by marksiwel
I will admit the Media does have it out for her, but come on, she is such an easy target
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:30 pm
by Rex B
I'm a Palin fan. I don't think she has said anything yet I disagree with, and usually it's a "Heck Yeah" (or similar).
She needs a little tempering, and needs to expand her horizons and world knowledge.
She isn't going away, and I'm going to vote for here whenever he name is on a ballot.
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 5:49 pm
by marksiwel
Rex B wrote:I'm a Palin fan. I don't think she has said anything yet I disagree with, and usually it's a "Heck Yeah" (or similar).
She needs a little tempering, and needs to expand her horizons and world knowledge.
She isn't going away, and I'm going to vote for here whenever he name is on a ballot.
I just dont see what she is doing/saying thats any different from the rest on the Republican party.
Here is my "Perfect Candidate"
Some background in government (Governor, Senator, Big city mayor, or maybe a self made business man)
I want them to be Careful with money, Reduce spending, Reduce National debt. Better with Other Countries. I want them to be big on personal freedom (Gun Rights, Gay Marriage, Abortion, Anti-Censorship) I also dont want anyone who believes that Global Warming is a fraud or that reducing pollution is going to "Cost everyone their jobs", Also I could do without a "Creationist" in office, its just hard to take them seriously. I dont care about his religion I just dont want it affecting Domestic and International policy at all.
republicans run that kind of person, I dont see how they could lose.
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 6:44 pm
by Zee
marksiwel wrote:Rex B wrote:I'm a Palin fan. I don't think she has said anything yet I disagree with, and usually it's a "Heck Yeah" (or similar).
She needs a little tempering, and needs to expand her horizons and world knowledge.
She isn't going away, and I'm going to vote for here whenever he name is on a ballot.
Here is my "Perfect Candidate"
I want them to be Careful with money, Reduce spending, Reduce National debt. Better with Other Countries. I want them to be big on personal freedom (Gun Rights, Gay Marriage, Abortion, Anti-Censorship) I also dont want anyone who believes that Global Warming is a fraud or that reducing pollution is going to "Cost everyone their jobs", Also I could do without a "Creationist" in office, its just hard to take them seriously. I dont care about his religion I just dont want it affecting Domestic and International policy at all.
republicans run that kind of person, I dont see how they could lose.
If there's such an animal, I'm in. Rep, Dem, Green, no matter.
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 7:12 pm
by marksiwel
Zee wrote:marksiwel wrote:Rex B wrote:I'm a Palin fan. I don't think she has said anything yet I disagree with, and usually it's a "Heck Yeah" (or similar).
She needs a little tempering, and needs to expand her horizons and world knowledge.
She isn't going away, and I'm going to vote for here whenever he name is on a ballot.
Here is my "Perfect Candidate"
I want them to be Careful with money, Reduce spending, Reduce National debt. Better with Other Countries. I want them to be big on personal freedom (Gun Rights, Gay Marriage, Abortion, Anti-Censorship) I also dont want anyone who believes that Global Warming is a fraud or that reducing pollution is going to "Cost everyone their jobs", Also I could do without a "Creationist" in office, its just hard to take them seriously. I dont care about his religion I just dont want it affecting Domestic and International policy at all.
republicans run that kind of person, I dont see how they could lose.
If there's such an animal, I'm in. Rep, Dem, Green, no matter.
I guess I better run then, I have no Ivy league education, and dont know anyone in politics, what are my chances?
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 9:27 pm
by Zee
I guess I better run then, I have no Ivy league education, and dont know anyone in politics, what are my chances?
Slightly less than Palin's.
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:49 pm
by Dudley
pbwalker wrote:I didn't like the decision McCain made - from the get go.
I still can't believe they nominated him. It's like the Republicans wanted to lose.
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 10:58 pm
by chabouk
Dudley wrote:pbwalker wrote:I didn't like the decision McCain made - from the get go.
I still can't believe they nominated him. It's like the Republicans wanted to lose.
Right. The problem half of the ticket wasn't Palin.
Re: The Republicans Dodged a Bullet there
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 11:55 pm
by marksiwel
chabouk wrote:Dudley wrote:pbwalker wrote:I didn't like the decision McCain made - from the get go.
I still can't believe they nominated him. It's like the Republicans wanted to lose.
Right. The problem half of the ticket wasn't Palin.
Darn them for putting someone who would get Republican and Possible Democrat votes, what were they thinking?
