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Purplehood wrote:Does the Anarchist state of Somalia actually have any territorial jurisdiction?

I think the answer is Yes.

The rest of the world recognizes a central government in Somalia for diplomatic and economic purposes. However, that government is not in control of the entire territory, nor does it have uncontested power even in the areas that are more or less under its control (rather like Afghanistan).

It seems that ships ought to be able to stay 12 miles offshore, though, or whatever is recognized as the limit of territorial waters under international law.

[Later] Oops, No, the Gulf of Oman is too narrow for that.

- Jim

Pirates are attacking much further than 12 NM.
250 NM rings a bell......

They are just thug's that are funneling money to terrorists! We and other countries are financially supporting terrorist activities against us! What a joke! Those Muslims aren't stupid you know.....

Purplehood wrote:Does the Anarchist state of Somalia actually have any territorial jurisdiction?

Very good question, Marine. At least one international law scholar has suggested that if a nation does not responsibly exercise its obligation to effectively exercise criminal jurisdiction in its territorial sea, through inability or declination, we have a different ballgame.

Jim

AndyC:
Did they want you to just use the English police system -

Stop!! or I'll yell Stop again!! :-)

SIA

AndyC wrote:

Purplehood wrote:Taking a wild guess, the big shipping companies are probably hard-pressed to find willing sailors to sail unarmed through that part of town...

Or security personnel. I was approached a while back to help set up teams in this regard; I walked away from it when I found out that arms would be prohibited, despite what they'd originally promised.

Why would they even bother approaching someone in the first place? What is the point of such an Oxymoron as unarmed Security?

surprise_i'm_armed wrote:AndyC:
Did they want you to just use the English police system -

Stop!! or I'll yell Stop again!! :-)

SIA

Don't also forget "Stop or I'll Toot!"
Referring to their whistles.

That one was posted in another thread earlier this month. Had me in stitches.

AndyC:

I knew you were non-American born, but my suggesting that you may
have had to use the English police system's shouts is not the same
thing as saying that you were English.

All right then can you shout "FREEDOM!!!" like Mel Gibson?

As an off topic side note, I had read that the place in the Western
World with the worst cuisine for your health is Glasgow, Scotland.
Apparently anything sugary or fatty is fried in lard, with more bad
toppings added to the original items.

It is common for men in their 30's and 40's to need triple and quadruple
heart valve replacement.

That being said, I would love to go to Scotland and visit.

A caller to a radio show said she loved the Scottish guest's brogue.
The next day a knowledgable person called in to correct that description.
Irish have a brogue. A Scotch accent is a burr.

SIA

Irish have a brogue.

Some people consider calling an Irish accent a brogue to be insulting.

A brogue is a type of shoe. Calling the accent a brogue meant the person talked like he had a shoe in his mouth.

- Jim

seamustx:

Is this a well-known insult? Would a native born Irishman be offended by this?

I had never heard the 2 definitions of "brogue" tied together in this fashion.

SIA

I think most real Irishmen (born and raised in Ireland) would not be insulted by the term brogue. The Irish have a great self-deprecating sense of humor, and the word has been in use a long time.

You run into political correctness everywhere, though.

- Jim

Purplehood wrote:

AndyC wrote:

Purplehood wrote:Taking a wild guess, the big shipping companies are probably hard-pressed to find willing sailors to sail unarmed through that part of town...

Or security personnel. I was approached a while back to help set up teams in this regard; I walked away from it when I found out that arms would be prohibited, despite what they'd originally promised.

Why would they even bother approaching someone in the first place? What is the point of such an Oxymoron as unarmed Security?

An interesting development:

http://shock.military.com/Shock/videos. ... stguard.nl" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Jim

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Read.aspx?ID=5220" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The above link is a 1 page analysis of the Maersk Alabama armed response
vs. the PC response of most of the maritime community against armed ships.

The above piece is dated 11/20/09.

SIA