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Re: Kay Jewelers doesn't trust you or your gun

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 12:49 pm
by karder
I'll just never understand the logic. The guys who are going to walk in and rob your store, are not going to submit their photos and fingerprints to the DPS ahead of time. Perhaps they are afraid of resistance in the event of a robbery. I don't understand that one either.

Re: Kay Jewelers doesn't trust you or your gun

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:07 pm
by chartreuse
karder wrote:I'll just never understand the logic. The guys who are going to walk in and rob your store, are not going to submit their photos and fingerprints to the DPS ahead of time. Perhaps they are afraid of resistance in the event of a robbery. I don't understand that one either.
One word: Insurance.
Just the other week I was told that some convenience stores forbid employees with CHLs from carrying at work. Even on the night shift. The view is apparently that if you give the bad guys what they want, they'll let you alone. Not sure what you're supposed to do if it doesn't pan out like that...

Re: Kay Jewelers doesn't trust you or your gun

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:14 pm
by nitrogen
Similar experience when I went shopping for my now ex-wife's ring at firewheel.

Went to NASR Jewelers there. Come to find out that the owner shot at a robber at another store of his.

Re: Kay Jewelers doesn't trust you or your gun

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 1:24 pm
by karder
chartreuse wrote:
karder wrote:I'll just never understand the logic. The guys who are going to walk in and rob your store, are not going to submit their photos and fingerprints to the DPS ahead of time. Perhaps they are afraid of resistance in the event of a robbery. I don't understand that one either.
One word: Insurance.
Just the other week I was told that some convenience stores forbid employees with CHLs from carrying at work. Even on the night shift. The view is apparently that if you give the bad guys what they want, they'll let you alone. Not sure what you're supposed to do if it doesn't pan out like that...
I know what you mean. I find it so frustrating. Companies are more concerned about lawsuits than the lives of their employees. We had a case here in El Paso a few years back. There was a fellow who was a decorated Vietnam Vet who had retired from his civilian job, but did not make enough to get by so worked a night shift at a Circle K. One night a couple of kids came in with a Marlin .22 to rob the place. He did not resist, gave them all the money, a bunch of cigarettes and beer. Exactly like the store told him to do. The kids were leaving and then for no reason, one of them stopped at the door, turned around and shot him one time in the chest and then ran away. The guy died almost instantly.

I guess store management can at least be content that he followed store orders. I am sure his widow will get by just fine.

Re: Kay Jewelers doesn't trust you or your gun

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:10 pm
by XD40SC
The Texas State Rifle Assn has cards that I'm going to order. The front says something to the effect that "I saw your sign. As a law-abiding citizen I'll take my gun and my business elsewhere." The back lists the qualifications (background check, etc.) that CHL holders have that the average man-in-the-street doesn't.

Re: Kay Jewelers doesn't trust you or your gun

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:19 pm
by hheremtp
XD40SC wrote:The Texas State Rifle Assn has cards that I'm going to order. The front says something to the effect that "I saw your sign. As a law-abiding citizen I'll take my gun and my business elsewhere." The back lists the qualifications (background check, etc.) that CHL holders have that the average man-in-the-street doesn't.
if you do a search on the web you can find them, all you need after that is some business cards and a printer.

Re: Kay Jewelers doesn't trust you or your gun

Posted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 3:47 pm
by Jonathanaf
XD40SC wrote:The Texas State Rifle Assn has cards that I'm going to order. The front says something to the effect that "I saw your sign. As a law-abiding citizen I'll take my gun and my business elsewhere." The back lists the qualifications (background check, etc.) that CHL holders have that the average man-in-the-street doesn't.
I like this idea a lot. Increasing awareness of CHL requirements is the best way to get these signs to come down, IMO.