Just a thought.

[casingpoint]

Para Ordnance moved its HQ to North Carolina in 2008, and its manufacturing in 2009

Wonder if they ever learn how to make a gun that actually worked.

[Sewer_Ice]

I think it may be important to mention in this thread Ronnie Barret refusing sales to the state of California, LE included. After they banned his gun and it's caliber, the states LE agencies continued to buy the gun, ammo, and get service for them. So, Barret no longer does sales to Law enforcement in CA, and will honor the original warranty, or do any service for any department in California. Cheaper than dirt followed this trend.

I think a few more places have followed the Trend.

[The Annoyed Man]

Cheaper than dirt followed this trend.

Not to knock CTD, but that action was almost gratuitous. California passed AB 962, a law banning mail order and online purchases of ammunition from out of state.

Governor Terminator issued the following statement before issuing the bill (source):

"To the Members of the California State Assembly: I am signing Assembly Bill 962.

This measure would require vendors of handgun ammunition to keep a log of information on handgun ammunition sales, store ammunition in a safe and secure manner, and require the face to-face transfer of ammunition sales.

Although I have previously vetoed legislation similar to this measure, local governments have demonstrated that requiring ammunition vendors to keep records on ammunition sales improves public safety. These records have allowed law enforcement to arrest and prosecute persons who have no business possessing firearms and ammunition: gang members, violent parolees, second and third strikers, and even people previously serving time in state prison for murder.

Utilized properly, this type of information is invaluable for keeping communities safe and preventing dangerous felons from committing crimes with firearms.

Moreover, this type of record keeping is no more intrusive for law abiding citizens than similar laws governing pawnshops or the sale of cold medicine. Unfortunately, even the most successful local program is flawed; without a statewide law, felons can easily skirt the record keeping requirements of one city by visiting another. Assembly Bill 962 will fix this problem by mandating that all ammunition vendors in the state keep records on ammunition sales.

As Governor, I have sought the appropriate balance between public safety and the right to keep and bear arms. I have signed important public safety measures to regulate the sale and transfer of .50 caliber rifles, instituted the California Firearms License Check program, and promoted the use of microstamping technology in handguns. I have also vetoed many pieces of legislation that sought to place unreasonable restrictions and burdens on firearms dealers and ammunition vendors.

Assembly Bill 962 reasonably regulates access to ammunition and improves public safety without placing undue burdens on consumers. For these reasons, I am pleased to sign this bill."

The law was passed in October and takes effect on July 1st of this year, after which CTD couldn't sell ammo to Californians if they wanted to. There has been a significant amount of backblast to this, and most Californians that I know have already determined that they'll simply drive to Vegas, or Reno, or Medford, or some other city and buy their ammo there. That also means that they'll combine those purchases with vacations (spending tourist money outside of California), as well as making the trips count for other shopping needs. California will thus suffer a net loss of revenue through lost sales taxes, lost merchandise sales to the state's economy, and lost tourism dollars. Legislation has already been introduced to repeal it. The lefty pinheads in Sacto never think about the laws of unintended consequences.

The idiots.