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Re: Selling gun FTF, what to do

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:32 pm
by Marty Graw
Oldgringo wrote:Don't ask, don't tell.
No different than carrying at the rodeo or NBA jam.

Re: Selling gun FTF, what to do

Posted: Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:41 pm
by grumble
Again, federal law is pretty explicit in this case. You can ask as many times as you want, it won't change the requirements. Can you sell it FTF and not get caught? Probably. Will the world come to a halt? Probably not. Could you get arrested and charged with a federal crime? Absolutely. It's your call.

Re: Selling gun FTF, what to do

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:05 am
by chabouk
jlb27537 wrote:The gun in question is a pistol. NOT a long gun.
He is in Texas, but he is a resident of Indiana and has a CHL from Indiana.
There is no shipping involved.
This would be a FTF sale.
The issue is....I, as a Texas resident would be selling a pistol to a Indiana Resident, both being in Texas at the time of the sale.
1. Doesn't matter. It's an interstate transfer. (If it was a long gun, you could make the transfer at a Texas FFL; the handgun must be transferred in Indiana.)
2. Doesn't matter. It's an interstate transfer. (Residency is what counts, not where the transfer happens.)
3. Doesn't matter. It's an interstate transfer. (Ditto.)
4. Doesn't matter. It's an interstate transfer. (Sale, gift; doesn't matter. It's an interstate transfer.)
5. The issue is, you're a Texas resident and he's an Indiana resident. That means that, by federal law, the transfer of a handgun must be done by an FFL in the recipient's state of residence.

We all know that this is wrong, but that is what the law is. We also know that illegal interstate transfers take place all the time, especially between close friends and family members. And, we know that for the most part, nobody cares.

That's what the law and the reality are. Make your own informed decision.

Re: Selling gun FTF, what to do

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:39 pm
by CompVest
nobody cares
Unless you are caught and then you WILL care for the rest of your life!!!!!!!

Re: Selling gun FTF, what to do

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:42 pm
by pbwalker
CompVest wrote:
nobody cares
Unless you are caught and then you WILL care for the rest of your life!!!!!!!
:iagree:

Not worth it in the end to me... It's a $30 FFL fee or a 30 sq/ft. room...

Re: Selling gun FTF, what to do

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 10:54 pm
by chabouk
CompVest wrote:
nobody cares
Unless you are caught and then you WILL care for the rest of your life!!!!!!!
You stopped quoting too soon:
chabouk wrote:That's what the law and the reality are. Make your own informed decision.

Re: Selling gun FTF, what to do

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:35 am
by 03Lightningrocks
If this guy is someone you have known forever and trust him, the odds of anything ever coming from him borrowing your weapon for an undetermined period of time are about the same as getting hit by lightning while your cashing in your multi million dollar winning lotto ticket. I don't know anything about cash changing hands... never happened. :tiphat:

Re: Selling gun FTF, what to do

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:15 am
by 92f-fan
03Lightningrocks wrote:If this guy is someone you have known forever and trust him, the odds of anything ever coming from him borrowing your weapon for an undetermined period of time are about the same as getting hit by lightning while your cashing in your multi million dollar winning lotto ticket. I don't know anything about cash changing hands... never happened. :tiphat:
trouble maker.... "rlol"

Re: Selling gun FTF, what to do

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:57 pm
by CompVest
chabouk wrote:
CompVest wrote:
nobody cares
Unless you are caught and then you WILL care for the rest of your life!!!!!!!
You stopped quoting too soon:
chabouk wrote:That's what the law and the reality are. Make your own informed decision.
No, I didn't stop quoting too soon. Making an informed decision as you suggested may be flat breaking the law. If caught the person will give the 2nd Amendment supporters a black eye! I see no reason to even suggest that anyone should break the law on the Forum. Not even if they are willing to take the consequences for their actions.

Re: Selling gun FTF, what to do

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:08 pm
by Keith B
And posts that condone breaking laws are against the forum rules :nono:

Rule 4. No posting of messages promoting illegal conduct.