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Wisewr wrote:

karder wrote:We need a Good Samaritan revival in this nation.

My point excatly, just better said. Thank you for that.

Agreed, but as a woman, I feel like if I don't take responsibility for my own safety then I have no right to expect others to do it for me. If I'm fighting and they want to help, come on over, but I don't expect anyone to "rescue" me.

T.

My wife carries exclusively in her purse. I've tried to make it possible for her to carry otherwise, but she has not yet made the effort to implement the particular fashion adjustments that would take. She has a nice holster to fit her snubbie, but doesn't use it. In precarious environments, she carries her purse cross body, and although she doesn't walk with her hand inside the gun pocket, she does unzip it and keep her hand near in anticipation of that need.

karder wrote:I just can't understand how grown men could stand around a not get involved. This guy is a purse snatcher for pete's sake!

Like they say, a CHL is not a Batman license.

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Very true. My point is not to ask Chl holders to become cops, however, I strongly believe that we have a duty to each other as children of God, to assist each other. I don't think the OP described a situation where a gun was even necessary. Criminals should be afraid to commit a crime with bystanders watching on.

TLynnHughes wrote: Agreed, but as a woman, I feel like if I don't take responsibility for my own safety then I have no right to expect others to do it for me. If I'm fighting and they want to help, come on over, but I don't expect anyone to "rescue" me.

T.

You are 100% correct Tlynn, you have to take responsibility for your own safety, as do all of us. We live in a society where we cannot expect help from others. While that is a cold, hard fact, it is plain wrong. A person who is being victimized has a right to expect help from the bystanders in my belief. "Help" is going to be depending on what that bystander is capable of doing of course. A 90 year old grandma is going to be limited to a different response than a 20 year old rugby player, but everyone can do something, even if it is just call for help. To advert our eyes and go about our business is very wrong.

I am speaking about society in general and what it has devolved to, not to anyone posting here. You folks are the types of people we need more of!

karder wrote: A 90 year old grandma is going to be limited to a different response than a 20 year old rugby player, but everyone can do something, even if it is just call for help. To advert our eyes and go about our business is very wrong.

Well said, karder, well said!

T.

karder, I like the way you think!

Thanks to you ladies for the enlightening on purse carry. My girlfriend just took the CHL class and I have been thinking about various ways she can carry. Being a guy, I need opinions/facts on how/what you women find is a good/not-so-good in the concealled carry department.

TLynnHughes
Ma'am, you are 100%, spot on with the fact that you should be able to take care of yourself and also that you shouldn't be dependent upon anyone for your safety except you. Please keep that mindset and pass it on to all you see, men and women alike.

As for intervening in this particular instance, (please keep in mind this is only my opinion formed by what I have read here and how I visualize this event taking place, not a statement of fact) I think helping her would have been the proper thing to do, especially if all standing around had done it. You are right, my CHL doesn't give me the right to play "the cops" but sometimes the mere presense of someone attempting to help will resolve the situation. I don't have to produce a weapon nor do I have to advance and "jump in". Most criminals of this nature are looking for an easy target with a quick getaway. The y also bank on no one getting involved. Just getting their attention is enough. He obviously thought she was an easy target or he would have done one of two things: 1) presented a weapon when going after the purse or 2) he would have gone somewhere else to find an easier target. There are all kinds of ways to "get involved" without putting yourself in danger.

Again, these are just my opinions based off of what I read and how I visualize this going down. Your opinions may vary

It is a good thing you ladies are taking steps to protect yourselves.

My ex-DIL had no means to fight off her attacker two years ago when she was severely beaten, raped, sodomized, and left for dead. Following extensive brain surgery, & a partial lobotomy, she barely survived and was released from the hospital after a 6 weeks stay. Although somewhat recovered, she still has medical & mental problems and will never be the same again.

The beast who did this to her is still walking around free in Central Texas.

Armybrat, sorry to hear about your ex-DIL's situation.

In my opinion this is how it starts, someone stealing a purse and no one caring. Let's just assume this happened 40-50 years ago. What are the odds someone would have helped her then? I would think MUCH higher. I guess what I mean by that is that now-a-days it seems like our society has demoralized itself into thinking, "It's not me or anyone I know getting their purse/wallet stolen, so why should I risk getting involved?" I'm afraid if things don't turn around and people don't regain a sense of care for the fellow man/woman, then the next thing you know it will be "It's not me or anyone I know being raped or beaten, so why should I risk getting invovled?" How sad would that be for someone YOU love to be subjected to something that horrific and bystanders not caring. If you don't think it 's going to happen eventually...too late, it's already begun, and it is a slippery slope.

There is only one word to describe someone who would not come to the aid of a woman fighting off a purse snatcher, coward!
Back when I was younger and 125lbs soaking wet my wife and I came upon a large group of people watching a man beat a woman on a street corner in New Orleans. I stopped the car in the middle of Canal street looked at my wife and said I have to do something. She said do what you have to do to help that woman. My wife knew that this was a dangerous situation and the easy/safe thing to do would have been to walk away. But both of us knew that if she was wearing that womans shoes we would want someone to help her.
I am no cop and I am no hero but I am also no coward. I was not able to get anyone in the crowd to assist me but was able to verbally engage the man and his friends which allowed the woman to escape down the street and into our car which my wife had driven onto the sidewalk for a quick get away. Both the woman and I made it into the car without additional injury to the woman or any injury to myself.
Could it have been much worse? Yes. Would we do it again even now that we have small children? My wife just answered that question with a "You bet - not helping in a situation like that is simply not an option".