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Re: Targets, shooting, and training.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 11:27 am
by 03Lightningrocks
CompVest wrote:
03Lightningrocks wrote:While I agree it would be a good idea to practice some self defense scenarios while shooting, many of us don't have the luxury of such a place to shoot. Both the places i shoot at will have a cow if you rapid fire. They would have three cows if you were caught drawing and firing from a holster. I usually get told to slow it down two or three times each time I go. I can understand the concern they have. It is still a bummer, but I do understand. I shoot at the Bullet Trap and at Garland Public. Both are pretty strict about rapid firing and/or holster drawing.

Anyone have a suggestion for a place that allows rapid fire in the DFW area?
Look at them, smile nicely, and tell them you have slowed it down!
LOL...that is exactly what I always tell them. :mrgreen: Kieth is correct, they allow double taps and don't seem to mind if you pick the weapon up off the table and fire in one smooth motion. But fire 5 or six rounds in two seconds or less and they get to scurrying around like a disturbed ant hill. :biggrinjester:

Like I said above, I understand the concern they have. I just don't like it. :cryin

Re: Targets, shooting, and training.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 12:09 pm
by Dragonfighter
Thirty years ago the Mozambique drill was, well, something else (Triad I think). It was designed as a door to door tactic for military incursions, hostage extractions, et al. The head shot comes after the two to center mass and the BG settles, then one goes in the head to assure incapacitation. It's not a defense tactic but an assassination tactic at close range. However, I can see where it is a good drill for accuracy under speed.

Anecdote About Head Shots: I was watching an episode of "Gangland" when they were profiling OKC's south-side gang. They had footage in a mall where a gang member shoots another and then chases after him. The deputies were in the mall shouted for him to stop from the escalator when he didn't a deputy fired one shot from about 40'. It was a head shot and the guy was DBG. The point I guess was if he had been on drugs or wearing armor, he was turned off like a switch. So there is value in a head shot, but I doubt I could've done it.

Re: Targets, shooting, and training.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 1:33 pm
by davidtx
Reading about target tactics here reminded me of the "zipper" approach I read about a few weeks ago. In searching, I found this thread (http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=17540). Srothstein's comment near the bottom of the first page is especially interesting.

Re: Targets, shooting, and training.

Posted: Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:37 pm
by CompVest
The Mozambique Drill is a close-quarter shooting technique in which the shooter fires twice into the torso of a target (known as a double tap to the center of mass) momentarily assesses the hits, then follows them up with a carefully aimed shot to the head of the target.

The third shot should be aimed to destroy the brain or to gain more and immediate effect the brain stem, killing the target and preventing the target from retaliating. The drill was added to the modern technique of gunfighting by Jeff Cooper based on the experience of one of his students, Mike Rousseau, while on duty in Mozambique.
This is not an assassination technique. Now the Triad mentioned in another post may have been but the Mozambique drill was not. It was employed because the body shots didn't stop the BG and so a head shot was taken to stop the advance of the BG.