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Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:20 pm
by joe817
57Coastie wrote:marksiwel wrote:Whats fun is even if its a stolen weapon but you buy it from a Dealer, the Orignal owner cannot get the gun from you or sue you directly. They can only sue the dealer or collect the Monetary amount from the dealer.
Fun? Are you suggesting that a dealer not having a good title to a gun can pass good title to you, and that the person from whom it is proved to have been stolen, no matter how many links in the chain, cannot reclaim the gun from you which is
his property? Does even the fact that you are an innocent purchaser make any difference at all?
Substitute for a gun: a car, a wristwatch, a boat, and so forth. Is a gun treated differently than the others?
An idle question? Or not?
Jim
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:23 pm
by USA1
57Coastie wrote:marksiwel wrote:USA1 wrote: Whats fun is even if its a stolen weapon but you buy it from a Dealer, the Orignal owner cannot get the gun from you or sue you directly. They can only sue the dealer or collect the Monetary amount from the dealer.
Fun? Are you suggesting that a dealer not having a good title to a gun can pass good title to you, and that the person from whom it is proved to have been stolen, no matter how many links in the chain, cannot reclaim the gun from you which is
his property? Does even the fact that you are an innocent purchaser make any difference at all?
Who, in this scenario, has the burden to collect from the dealer? The legitimate owner of the gun, or you?
Substitute for a gun: a car, a wristwatch, a boat, and so forth. Is a gun treated differently than the others?
An idle question? Or not?
Jim
Um, that's not my quote.
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:27 pm
by marksiwel
57Coastie wrote:marksiwel wrote:USA1 wrote: Whats fun is even if its a stolen weapon but you buy it from a Dealer, the Orignal owner cannot get the gun from you or sue you directly. They can only sue the dealer or collect the Monetary amount from the dealer.
Fun? Are you suggesting that a dealer not having a good title to a gun can pass good title to you, and that the person from whom it is proved to have been stolen, no matter how many links in the chain, cannot reclaim the gun from you which is
his property? Does even the fact that you are an innocent purchaser make any difference at all?
Who, in this scenario, has the burden to collect from the dealer? The legitimate owner of the gun, or you?
Substitute for a gun: a car, a wristwatch, a boat, and so forth. Is a gun treated differently than the others?
An idle question? Or not?
Jim
As far as how the Law works, If you steal a Car, sell it to a dealership, I then go to that dealership and buy it "In Good Faith" the Car is mine.
The Orignal owner of the Car may collect the amount of the Car from the Dealership. I cannot be sued (more or less)
Isnt the Law fun?
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:30 pm
by bizarrenormality
USA1 wrote:USA1 wrote:Um, that's not my quote.
Not mine either.
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:36 pm
by 57Coastie
USA1 wrote:Um, that's not my quote.
I don't know how that happened either, USA. I had quoted you earlier, to agree with you, but I only quoted Mark in the second posting. Or I certainly meant to.
Jim
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:43 pm
by chartreuse
For a $200 rifle from a buddy that I know well, I won't usually bother. For a $1000 one, from some guy on Teh Innerwebs, I'll ask for an invoice listing his details, the price and the serial #. Not least because it would come in handy if I ever needed to make an insurance claim.
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:44 pm
by USA1
57Coastie wrote:USA1 wrote:Um, that's not my quote.
I don't know how that happened either, USA. I had quoted you earlier, to agree with you, but I only quoted Mark in the second posting. Or I certainly meant to.
Jim
No problem, just wanted it known.
Once I accidentally made a quote look like 03Lighteningrocks voted for obama.
You can imagine his reaction.
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:53 pm
by 57Coastie
USA1 wrote: Once I accidentally made a quote look like 03Lighteningrocks voted for obama.
You can imagine his reaction.
He didn't?
Jim
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 8:55 pm
by marksiwel
57Coastie wrote:USA1 wrote: Once I accidentally made a quote look like 03Lighteningrocks voted for obama.
You can imagine his reaction.
He didn't?
Jim
I know I didnt.
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:04 pm
by TLynnHughes
WildBill wrote:My rule is to never trade a firearm. You can buy new ones, but keep the ones you've got.
We've pretty much adopted this rule in our family as well. My son wanted to sell his FN because he needed some cash. williamkevin and I bought it from him. He got the cash and the gun stays in the family.
T.
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:48 pm
by cohiba550
Always having a bill of sale will show that it is no longer yours and who it went to. Other than that they aren't worth much.
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2010 10:51 pm
by marksiwel
No one's mentioned going to a FLL, where they can run a background check. Keeping guns off the street and all that
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:04 am
by 03Lightningrocks
57Coastie wrote:USA1 wrote: Once I accidentally made a quote look like 03Lighteningrocks voted for obama.
You can imagine his reaction.
He didn't?
Jim
............
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:06 am
by USA1
03Lightningrocks wrote:57Coastie wrote:USA1 wrote: Once I accidentally made a quote look like 03Lighteningrocks voted for obama.
You can imagine his reaction.
He didn't?
Jim
............
I knew you were lurking in the shadows.
Re: When you trade a firearm...
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:46 am
by 03Lightningrocks
USA1 wrote:03Lightningrocks wrote:57Coastie wrote:USA1 wrote: Once I accidentally made a quote look like 03Lighteningrocks voted for obama.
You can imagine his reaction.
He didn't?
Jim
............
I knew you were lurking in the shadows.
Lurking in the shadows??? You make me sound like a stalker.
