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Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:54 am
by KFP
Folding the elastic waistband of my underwear over the grip of the pistol works well for me and keeps the trigger guard covered.

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:54 am
by Carry-a-Kimber
KFP wrote:Folding the elastic waistband of my underwear over the grip of the pistol works well for me and keeps the trigger guard covered.
I really like this idea, might have to try that one next time. I'll give it a test drive at home first though.

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 11:08 am
by drjoker
KD5NRH wrote:
drjoker wrote:I also always use the stall and never the urinal because it is impossible to urinate without showing off the smartcarry. The guy who sells it claims that it is possible to do so, but I have found it impossible to do so unless i wanna accidentally tinkle on the smartcarry or show off my pistol.
It can be done, though it takes some practice to consistently avoid pinching. :shock:

As for showing, anybody looking there at that time is going to have some explaining to do if they go tattling about your failure to conceal. Reasonable expectation of privacy is pretty likely to be upheld in front of the urinal as it would be in a stall, so short of inviting someone to look or turning around before you zip, I doubt they could make intentional failure to conceal stick.
KD5NRH and Gary, thanks for the good advice.

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 12:59 pm
by MojoTexas
gwashorn wrote:I saw a demostration of this one of the gun shows. Personal Defense, with Masaad Ayoub. I used his method even before he showed it. For OWB carry, The weight of the weapon tends to pull your belt out [abbreviated profanity deleted] the loops and sag. Especially if you are right handed. So, Leaving the pants waist at about your knees, after you sit you connect the belt back up at the longest hole for the belt. then you pressure your knees outward to hold the belt in tension, keeping the belt, holster and weapon high above the wall's open area below. Unholstering a weapon is one of the things that can lead to an AD. I have done it this way and works great. Not as easy maybe as normal conditions but certainly you won't accidently leave it if set behind you, hung on a hook etc. If IWB, I have found the same works but is actually a lot easier with my M-Tac because it does not pull outward on the belt. Check it out at home and practice before going out.
The first time I needed to use a stall in public while carrying, that's EXACTLY what I did. I had my Kimber in an OWB holster, so I just rebuckled the belt to the last hole and kept it around my knees. The pistol and spare magazine weren't visible and I was able to do my business without having to unholster.

:thumbs2:

MojoTexas :txflag:

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 1:46 pm
by gringop
When you sit down, position the side of the pants, holster, belt and gun so they sit on your knee. This keeps the gun in the holster, readily accessible and not visible under the stall wall. You may have to rotate the pants a bit to make it work. Fastening the belt may help when you have to stand up and both hands are occupied.

Practice this at home.

Gringop

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 6:23 pm
by coog83
In reference to the Glock inquiry, being an occasional Glock carrier and Glock clone carrier, I would NEVER hang my Glock or Taurus 709 slim on a hook by the trigger guard. I would be afraid that an AD would be an all together too real possibility. If I'm carrying IWB, I (A.) flip my gun down into the pants before dropping them all the way and wrap the gun up with the back of the pants, (B.) if I'm wearing a coat, unholster and slip the gun into a coat pocket, hanging it on the door if there is opportunity or (C.) I slip the gun into my pants pocket, especially if I'm wearing cargo shorts in the summer time. I never unholster my gun and set it anywhere. I would hate for it to hit the floor and I get made through sight or AD or worse, forget it there and it not be there when I go looking for it. I usually pocket carry a Ruger LCP, so no worries there, but on the last scenario, I also carry in a smart carry, more frequently as of late, and I can just pull it up around my chest, and go about my business. I've just found out that the Smart Carry works far better for a slimmer person now that I've shed a few pounds.

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 9:08 pm
by gigag04
Some of our plainclothes officers have told me they like to do rest in the underwear like some have mentioned. This seems to make the most sense to me. I would not leave it in a holster, even with retention because the belt is not fastened.

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:33 pm
by GhostTX
Someone needs to take the best ideas, string that in one thread and make it a sticky.

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 10:04 pm
by Oldgringo
GhostTX wrote:Someone needs to take the best ideas, string that in one thread and make it a sticky.
:roll: {SIGH}

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2010 11:04 pm
by GhostTX
Oldgringo wrote:
GhostTX wrote:Someone needs to take the best ideas, string that in one thread and make it a sticky.
:roll: {SIGH}
Or, you can have this same thread every other month...

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:51 am
by Oldgringo
GhostTX wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:
GhostTX wrote:Someone needs to take the best ideas, string that in one thread and make it a sticky.
:roll: {SIGH}
Or, you can have this same thread every other month...
Or, it could be a CHL test question...

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:55 am
by wgoforth
I talked with a city cop yesterday, and he said he either goes home to do a numero dos, goes back to car and leaves the gun there, or lays it on back of toliet. None of those sound always practical, and the last would be a sure no-go. Too much potential for forgetting it.

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2010 9:33 pm
by DoubleActionCHL
I avoid doing any serious business in public restrooms for lots of reasons. I've got a lot of weight on my pants with a G22, G23, 2 mags, flashlight and a couple of knives so the first problem I have is NOT letting them drop to the floor when I unbuckle the belt.

Very often the stainless paper holder has a flat top that can act as a shelf. In the handicap stall, it's sometimes possible to wedge the handgun between the rail and wall. My preference is to leave one in the holster and the other in my drawers. Personally, I can't imagine forgetting one.

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:35 pm
by flynbenny
coog83 wrote:In reference to the Glock inquiry, being an occasional Glock carrier and Glock clone carrier, I would NEVER hang my Glock or Taurus 709 slim on a hook by the trigger guard. I would be afraid that an AD would be an all together too real possibility. If I'm carrying IWB, I (A.) flip my gun down into the pants before dropping them all the way and wrap the gun up with the back of the pants
Ditto for IWB, gun placed in the underwear for OWB, and if I'm wearing the shoulder rig nothing needs to be done :anamatedbanana

Re: another public restroom question

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 3:21 pm
by Oldgringo
I am surprised that certain members have not taken umbrage at this rather inane and recurring subject...or maybe, it's just me? It seems to me that if one can not figure out how to go to the restroom with one's CC, one should either:

A. not carry a CW,
B. take the CW to one's vehicle; or,
C. not go to the restroom.

Where have I gone wrong?