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nitrogen wrote:David Frum puts it into perspective.

cbr600 wrote:My condolences to the medical professionals on the forum.

G.A. Heath wrote:Since health-care has passed, when are we holding the funeral for it?

nitrogen wrote:David Frum puts it into perspective.

I’ve been on a soapbox for months now about the harm that our overheated talk is doing to us. Yes it mobilizes supporters – but by mobilizing them with hysterical accusations and pseudo-information, overheated talk has made it impossible for representatives to represent and elected leaders to lead. The real leaders are on TV and radio, and they have very different imperatives from people in government. Talk radio thrives on confrontation and recrimination. When Rush Limbaugh said that he wanted President Obama to fail, he was intelligently explaining his own interests. What he omitted to say – but what is equally true – is that he also wants Republicans to fail. If Republicans succeed – if they govern successfully in office and negotiate attractive compromises out of office – Rush’s listeners get less angry. And if they are less angry, they listen to the radio less, and hear fewer ads for Sleepnumber beds.

So today’s defeat for free-market economics and Republican values is a huge win for the conservative entertainment industry. Their listeners and viewers will now be even more enraged, even more frustrated, even more disappointed in everybody except the responsibility-free talkers on television and radio. For them, it’s mission accomplished. For the cause they purport to represent, it’s Waterloo all right: ours.

boomerang wrote:Still can't find where this is allowed in the Constitution.

Pelosi and her anti-constitutionalists are bigger threats to America than Bin Laden ever was.

CaptWoodrow10 wrote:

boomerang wrote:Still can't find where this is allowed in the Constitution.

Pelosi and her anti-constitutionalists are bigger threats to America than Bin Laden ever was.

I know at least 3 states are ready challenge it's constitutional legality in the supreme court (hopefully soon). I'm sure many states's AGs will follow suit (pun intended) shortly after.

javechet wrote:

texas1234 wrote:Goodbye America! Hello Europe!!!

Lets see through healthcare they can control just about everything.

And since we are 85 trillion in debt already my guess taxes are going to go sky high.

Texans do we really want to be a part of this? I dont.

No. It kind of reminds me of cleaning on ship; if everyone's doing something, nothing gets done. (It makes more sense if you've been on a Navy ship)

casingpoint wrote:Good question. They actually did not need Murtha's absentee vote, as he was number 219 and the Dems only needed 216 ayes. Insofar as a dead man voting goes, that's the kind of change you can believe in now, even if you can't believe it.