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Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 8:58 pm
by neilp
[quote="marksiwel"]I see FMJ at Academy but never JHP[quote]
More than half the stash of .380 I accumulated by using my Academy routine is JHP. For a few weeks it was all they had. Not the fancy stuff, just their own brand Monarch 94gr JHP. Both the JHP and FMJ Monarch 380 has performed flawlessly in my Bersa. It was pretty cheap too about $13 / 50 box IIRC. This was last summer so it may have gone up since then.
Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:00 pm
by marksiwel
neilp wrote:marksiwel wrote:I see FMJ at Academy but never JHP
More than half the stash of .380 I accumulated by using my Academy routine is JHP. For a few weeks it was all they had. Not the fancy stuff, just their own brand Monarch 94gr JHP. Both the JHP and FMJ Monarch 380 has performed flawlessly in my Bersa. It was pretty cheap too about $13 / 50 box IIRC. This was last summer so it may have gone up since then.
would you want to use Monarch JHP to protect yourself?
Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:10 pm
by neilp
marksiwel wrote:would you want to use Monarch JHP to protect yourself?
Probably not my first choice ; -) But it's better than nothing. I use it at the range and carry it for lack of a better option.
Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:06 pm
by Embalmo
The Monarch JHP is a curiosity. It cost about the same as their FMJ and seems to have just a little bit of lead scooped out of the center. I would love to see if there is any expansion.
Embalmo
Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:09 pm
by marksiwel
Embalmo wrote:The Monarch JHP is a curiosity. It cost about the same as their FMJ and seems to have just a little bit of lead scooped out of the center. I would love to see if there is any expansion.
Embalmo
Get some Jello and go all Mythbusters
Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:31 pm
by USA1
Embalmo wrote:The Monarch JHP is a curiosity. It cost about the same as their FMJ and seems to have just a little bit of lead scooped out of the center. I would love to see if there is any expansion.
Embalmo
This came up a while back and I took some pics of Monarch JHP's.


Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:34 pm
by neilp
Embalmo wrote:I would love to see if there is any expansion.
Me too!
Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:35 pm
by USA1
neilp wrote:Embalmo wrote:I would love to see if there is any expansion.
Me too!
They probably just hurt a little more than FMJ's.

Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:42 pm
by Embalmo
I wonder how many of those itty bitty scoops it takes to make a whole bullet.

Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:42 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
I'm sure with a little practice, you could catch them in your teeth. :-)
SIA
Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:47 pm
by A-R
neilp wrote:Embalmo wrote:I would love to see if there is any expansion.
Me too!
If you can get me a couple rounds and 6 one-gallon milk jugs (or water jugs), I'd be happy to test them for expansion at my family's land near Hutto. Someone else - I think it was Joe817 in DFW area - had asked me about testing some Monarch JHP but I don't have any left (sold them off after I finally found enough boxes of Hornady Critical Defense to satisfy my needs).
Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2010 1:23 pm
by neilp
austin realtor, I have some you can test. PM me and we can meet up in Hutto or wherever suits you. Neil
Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 12:17 pm
by Dragonfighter
surprise_i'm_armed wrote:I'm sure with a little practice, you could catch them in your teeth. :-)
SIA
How do you practice something like that? You either catch it or it's break out the dental floss...for those anyway.
Seriously though, it looks like they snipped the ends off their FMJs and tapped them with a drill press.
Re: My experiences with carry my new Bersa Thunder.
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:45 pm
by Embalmo
Dragonfighter wrote:surprise_i'm_armed wrote:I'm sure with a little practice, you could catch them in your teeth. :-)
SIA
How do you practice something like that? You either catch it or it's break out the dental floss...for those anyway.
Seriously though, it looks like they snipped the ends off their FMJs and tapped them with a drill press.
Not even that ambitious-The FMJ nose is already flat-They just tapped them with a drill press. Still, it bothers me that there are people out there that think they're packin' hollow points when they've loaded their guns with an FM with J.
Embalmo