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Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:18 pm
by 03Lightningrocks
boomerang wrote:He dissented on Heller. Nuff said.
I was thinking the new Justice would be equal or slightly more anti-gun. My first thought when I heard it on TV was that this was going to be a lib for lib swap. The main fear I have is that the new Justice will be on the court for many years after we have rid the country of the socialist party. We already know that Obama is anti-gun and I feel sure any pro 2nd amendment Judge would not be considered in the first place.
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 1:21 pm
by gigag04
If Obama goes with a far left liberal, it will stall his legislative agenda (climate control, wall street reform, etc). If he goes with with a more moderate, it will aggravate his base, but go smoother this summer, where he can maybe get some legislation passed before November - when hopefully we get some fresh faces in Congress.
Looks like he has some choices to make.
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:13 pm
by Dragonfighter

Well said.
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 6:43 pm
by tarkus
03Lightningrocks wrote:I was thinking the new Justice would be equal or slightly more anti-gun.
Has Stevens ever made a pro gun ruling during his time as a Supreme? The biggest downside is whoever BamBam picks is going to be a Supreme for a long time. That's a bigger potential threat to our life, liberty and property.
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 7:33 pm
by ninemm
As some have stated, confirmation of a really leftist will meet some opposition, so the extent of liberalness of the nominee may be moderated by a desire to at least get a nominee confirmed before a new Congress is seated. One of the things the pundits have expressed about Stevens was his ability to sway even the conservative members of the SCOTUS to his way of thinking at times.
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:22 pm
by chabouk
Kythas wrote:Janet Napalitano is apparently also in the running.
Now if it was
Andrew Napolitano...

Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Sat Apr 10, 2010 8:41 pm
by juggernaut
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:16 am
by Kythas
A new name has appeared on the short list, according to ABC News:
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch ... -list.html
Last Friday we told you that President Obama's short list of possible nominees to replace Justice John Paul Stevens on the US Supreme Court contains fewer than 10 names.
We told you that 7th circuit Court of Appeals Judge Diane Wood, Solicitor General Elena Kagan, DC Court of Appeals Judge Merrick Garland and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano are on the short, list -- and now we've learned another.
Former Georgia Supreme Court chief justice Leah Ward Sears is also on the short list, a senior White House official tells ABC News.
Sears, who will turn 55 in June, was the first female African-American chief justice in US history, and when nominated for the state supreme court by then-Gov. Zell Miller in 1992, she became the first woman and the youngest person to ever sit on the court.
She stepped down from the court last year and currently practices law at Schiff Hardin.
A graduate of Emory University Law School, Sears was on President Obama’s short list last year. A member of the left-leaning American Constitution Society, she is also a friend of conservative Justice Clarence Thomas.
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:55 pm
by LarryH
Read on some e-newsletter this morning that Hillary Clinton might also be under consideration (or at least that somebody thought she should be).
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2010 4:44 pm
by stevie_d_64
LarryH wrote:Read on some e-newsletter this morning that Hillary Clinton might also be under consideration (or at least that somebody thought she should be).
Heard that as well, last week...
Gag a maggot...

Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 9:28 pm
by Kythas
It has just been announced that Elena Kagan is Obama's new Supreme Court nominee to replace Stevens.
One thing that's been mentioned is when she was Dean of Harvard Law School, she refused the military permission to recruit on campus due to Don't Ask Don't Tell. That's one strike against her as far as I'm concerned. The national security of the country should never be politicized.
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:28 pm
by Purplehood
HankB wrote:The ONLY good thing about Stevens is the certainty that he wouldn't be on the bench for much longer.
The problem with any Obama replacement is that we can look forward to DECADES of anti-Americanism from that seat; creative misinterpretation, "auras" and "penumbras" of meaning, cites of foreign law being applied to US decisions . . .
I wonder if a President McCain would have filled SCOTUS vacancies better than BHO would . . . an whether or not the GOP members of the Senate will muster the intestinal fortitude to stop the really, really bad nominee we can expect . . .
I still haven't seen any negative fallout from my perspective with the Sotomayor appointment, so I find it difficult to worry at this time.
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 1:42 pm
by SQLGeek
Purplehood wrote:
I still haven't seen any negative fallout from my perspective with the Sotomayor appointment, so I find it difficult to worry at this time.
I think it is still far too early to tell.
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:07 pm
by Skiprr
Kagan's is going to be an interesting confirmation process. She already has more far-left liberals decrying her than right-leaning folk. Hm.
I have much reading to do, but here's what I've found of her 2A stance, focusing on
Heller, from
Kagan's responses during her Solicitor General nomination proceedings in early 2009.
Senator Grassley wrote:This past year, the U.S. Supreme Court held in the Heller case that the Second Amendment protects an individual’s right to possess a firearm, regardless of their participation in a “well regulated militia.” President-elect Obama stated that he supported an individual’s right to possess a firearm and signaled his support for the Heller decision. What is your personal opinion of the rights afforded by the Second Amendment?
Ms. Kagan wrote:The Supreme Court held in District of Columbia v. Heller, 128 S.Ct. 2783 (2008), that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms. The Court granted this right the same status as other individual rights guaranteed by the Constitution, such as those protected in the First Amendment. Like other nominees to the Solicitor General position, I have refrained from providing my personal opinions of constitutional law (except in areas where I previously have stated opinions), both because those opinions will play no part in my official decisions and because such statements of opinion might be used to undermine the interests of the United States in litigation. I can say, however, that I understand the Solicitor General’s obligations to include deep respect for Supreme Court precedents like Heller and for the principle of stare decisis generally. There is no question, after Heller, that the Second Amendment guarantees Americans “the individual right to possess and carry weapons in case of confrontation.”
Senator Grassley wrote:If you are confirmed, will you commit to protect an individual’s right to possess a
firearm?
Ms. Kagan wrote:If I am confirmed, I will commit to show Heller and the principles articulated in it the full measure of respect that is due to all constitutional decisions of the Court. Only highly unusual circumstances can justify the
Solicitor General’s office in asking the Court to reconsider a decision, especially one as thoroughly considered as Heller. Once again, there is no question, after Heller, that the Second Amendment guarantees individuals the right to keep and bear arms and that this right, like others in the Constitution, provides strong although not unlimited protection against governmental regulation.
Senator Tom Coburn, in follow-up questions wrote:Please discuss your view of the Second Amendment, in light of the recent Heller decision. I would like to better understand the lens through which you view this right, as you will surely be faced with related legislation as Solicitor General.
Ms. Kagan wrote:The Supreme Court held in District of Columbia v. Heller, 128 S.Ct. 2783 (2008), that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms. In light of this right, the Court invalidated a ban on handgun possession in the home. At the same time, the Court stated that “some measures regulating” firearms would comport with this constitutional right. Essentially, the Court made clear that the Second Amendment right to bear arms should be treated like any other constitutional right – the Court, for example, offered an analogy to the First Amendment – providing strong but not unlimited protection. As I indicated at my confirmation hearing, my concept of the Solicitor General’s role includes respect for Supreme Court precedents such as Heller and for the principle of stare decisis generally.
Senator Specter wrote:Would you ever give weight to other nations’ restrictions on gun rights when interpreting the Second Amendment?
Ms. Kagan wrote:A number of the Justices have considered foreign law in the Eighth Amendment context, where the Court’s inquiry often focuses on “evolving standards of decency” and then on the level of consensus favoring or disfavoring certain practices. By contrast, none of the Justices relied on other nations’ restrictions on gun rights in their opinions in District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), and the grounded historical approach adopted in that case (and echoed even in the
dissents) would grant no relevance to arguments from comparative law in defining the scope of the Second Amendment right.
Re: Justice Stevens Retiring
Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 2:46 pm
by LarryH
Ms Kagan's responses during her hearings for Solicitor General are not completely germane to her confirmation (or not) as Supreme Court justice. Those responses basically said that as Solicitor General, she would respect and comply with the law of the land. They should not (IMHO) be extrapolated to assume that as a member of SCOTUS she would vote to continue the same laws/policies, although she did express respect for stare decisis.
JMHO, worth what you paid for it (WWYPFI).