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Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 7:47 am
by OldCannon
You can get a nice "Shooting Situation Card" from USConcealedCarry.com here http://www.usconcealedcarry.com/members/1426.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. I carry one in my wallet all the time (when you join, they give you two free cards as well).

One personal comment about USCCA: This organization is run as a business, _not_ as a community site (like this one). They are very focused on subscribers and motivating you to subscribe to their site/magazine. They _do_ have some nice articles, and they _do_ provide a great service to people that don't have communities like this one (not all of us are blessed to live in The Great Republic of Texas :txflag: ), but their site is chock full of member-only roadblocks and promotions to join USCCA.

I don't want to seem overly negative about that though. I'm glad to be a member, because I do find some gems of information on their site sometimes. I just wanted to give a fair warning to those of you that follow the link I've posted.

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:00 am
by Pawpaw
lkd wrote:but their site is chock full of member-only roadblocks and promotions to join USCCA.
One of those roadblocks being the ability to see the page you linked. :headscratch

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:10 am
by Abraham
fickman,

Your concern is well placed.

I acquired my CHL for my further protection, fully appreciating I'm not LEO-light...nor want to be.

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 10:51 am
by OldCannon
Pawpaw1 wrote:
lkd wrote:but their site is chock full of member-only roadblocks and promotions to join USCCA.
One of those roadblocks being the ability to see the page you linked. :headscratch
Ow, try this: http://www.mcssl.com/SecureCart/ViewCar ... 287&bhcp=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm attaching pics of the card (Tim Schmidt isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, IMHO, and seems to not know how to lower the bar in goodwill - it's ridiculous to call it "Free" if it's almost impossible to find)

Here's the card image:
uscca_card.jpg

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 12:59 pm
by baldeagle
Interesting. He wastes a lot of space with his advertising rather than printing only relevant and important information. He also doesn't have any information about what to tell 911; no location, no description of the GG or BG so the police can distinguish between them.

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:22 pm
by Beiruty
lkd wrote:You can get a nice "Shooting Situation Card" from USConcealedCarry.com here http://www.usconcealedcarry.com/members/1426.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;. I carry one in my wallet all the time (when you join, they give you two free cards as well).

One personal comment about USCCA: This organization is run as a business, _not_ as a community site (like this one). They are very focused on subscribers and motivating you to subscribe to their site/magazine. They _do_ have some nice articles, and they _do_ provide a great service to people that don't have communities like this one (not all of us are blessed to live in The Great Republic of Texas :txflag: ), but their site is chock full of member-only roadblocks and promotions to join USCCA.

I don't want to seem overly negative about that though. I'm glad to be a member, because I do find some gems of information on their site sometimes. I just wanted to give a fair warning to those of you that follow the link I've posted.
I got banned from said organization with no warning as bonus I got a 2 page long full of hate, bigotry and cussing from drunk moderator who was reportedly "sick" at the time his spewed his feelings. After a week or so, I was glad that I cleansed myself from that association.

No remorse.

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:36 pm
by baldeagle
I was turned off by their pushiness and their prices.

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 2:09 pm
by seniorshooteress
I joined USCCA and after a couple of visits to the site/ reading their magazine and getting no more info than I did here (for FREE), quickly decided it was a waste of money. (Could have bought ammo with that subscription money). When this sub runs out I won't get another.

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:07 pm
by Crossfire
Beiruty wrote:I got banned from said organization with no warning as bonus I got a 2 page long full of hate, bigotry and cussing from drunk moderator who was reportedly "sick" at the time his spewed his feelings. After a week or so, I was glad that I cleansed myself from that association.

No remorse.
Wow! :shock: And people complain about OUR moderating!

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:39 pm
by Pawpaw
lkd wrote:Ow, try this:
Thank you.

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:00 pm
by tacticool
baldeagle wrote:For purposes of this discussion, we're going to assume that you have drawn your gun and fired it and a single BG is disabled but not dead. There are no other BGs. You have the BG at gunpoint, and you have just called 911.

What information is vital to give to 911? Your description? The BG's description and condition? The fact that you have the BG at gunpoint? Discuss.
Did I run out of ammo? I was taught to shoot to stop the threat, so I should keep shooting if he's still a threat and I have ammo. On the other hand, I can holster if he's not a threat.

The vital information to tell 911 is my location and that someone tried to rob me.

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 6:57 pm
by Hoi Polloi
tacticool wrote:
baldeagle wrote:For purposes of this discussion, we're going to assume that you have drawn your gun and fired it and a single BG is disabled but not dead. There are no other BGs. You have the BG at gunpoint, and you have just called 911.

What information is vital to give to 911? Your description? The BG's description and condition? The fact that you have the BG at gunpoint? Discuss.
Did I run out of ammo?
:thumbs2:

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:04 pm
by megs
As a young woman with good grooming/hygiene and mainstream fashion sense, I think most police are predisposed to assume I'm the victim/defender and not the criminal/attacker.

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2010 7:20 pm
by Hoi Polloi
megs wrote:As a young woman with good grooming/hygiene and mainstream fashion sense, I think most police are predisposed to assume I'm the victim/defender and not the criminal/attacker.
That is unless the attacker is a well-groomed and respectable looking person, particularly one older than you.

What's the name of that guy who is a well-known criminal? Rapist? Murderer? I don't recall. Infamous, though. He was a well-groomed elderly man who would often fake a limp, IIRC, and would often ask for assistance from women like asking for help getting into the car, again IIRC. I don't remember enough details to get a good hit on searches. I imagine if you or I were pointing a gun at him when the police arrived, they'd assume we were the perps.

Oh, and there's the wheelchair guy that I read about recently (probably here) who didn't let his disabilities get in the way of his life of crime. Imagine an LEO coming upon that one!

Re: Post-incident survival - in public

Posted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 12:50 pm
by LarryH
Hoi Polloi wrote:What's the name of that guy who is a well-known criminal? Rapist? Murderer? I don't recall. Infamous, though. He was a well-groomed elderly man who would often fake a limp, IIRC, and would often ask for assistance from women like asking for help getting into the car, again IIRC. I don't remember enough details to get a good hit on searches. I imagine if you or I were pointing a gun at him when the police arrived, they'd assume we were the perps.
Although he certainly wasn't elderly, Ted Bundy used a similar ploy to get close enough to some of his victims.