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Re: Unintended consequences of ending the non-res loophole

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 12:08 am
by cbr600
texasjeep44 wrote:If your living in Texas, the laws of Utah, Florida or any other state really don't do you any good on a daily basis.
:iagree: That's true regardless of whether you're carrying in your pocket or your glovebox.

Re: Unintended consequences of ending the non-res loophole

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:58 am
by Jumping Frog
olafpfj wrote:I can't remember what state's site I read this on but it stated that their non-resident permit was intended for people who lived in states where permits were not available.
That is not accurate for many states. In fact, for some states like PA, NH, AZ having a CHL in your home state is the preferred method. All you need to do to get a PA non-resident license is mail the application, a couple pictures, $26, and a copy of your home state CHL.

So let's be clear that there is no "fast and loose with the intentions of the law" as if these are tax loopholes.
olafpfj wrote:The non-resident permits from Florida and Utah are technically being abused,
FYI, Florida does not issue non-resident permits. They also do not issue resident permits. FLorida just issues a license and does not distinguish between resident and non-resident status. In fact, I've heard that the current licenses do not even include the licensee's address.

Re: Unintended consequences of ending the non-res loophole

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:34 pm
by cling
That's right. The current Florida license has no address. When you move, you send them your new address and they'll update it in their database, at no charge, and there's no wait for new plastic.

I got a US passport card for trips to Mexico but started carrying it as my primary ID because it also doesn't have an address. :mrgreen:

Re: Unintended consequences of ending the non-res loophole

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:09 pm
by jamisjockey
cling wrote:That's right. The current Florida license has no address. When you move, you send them your new address and they'll update it in their database, at no charge, and there's no wait for new plastic.

I got a US passport card for trips to Mexico but started carrying it as my primary ID because it also doesn't have an address. :mrgreen:

Utah tells you to put a sticker on the back with your new address. I ordered a new permit earlier this year just to be safe, though, when planning for the move to Texas.

Re: Unintended consequences of ending the non-res loophole

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 7:44 pm
by PappaGun
texasjeep44 wrote:
PappaGun wrote:
texasjeep44 wrote:...Taking the easy way is never a good idea in my opinion...
Like driving a Jeep instead of a Range Rover?

:lol::
I think your mistaken. The Range Rovers are always on the easy trails because the owners are scared to get them dirty or scratching skid plates. "rlol"
I was being sarcastic, mostly.
That's true for American drivers.
Make mine a CJ.

Re: Unintended consequences of ending the non-res loophole

Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:53 pm
by ghostrider
In my earlier posts on this issue, I stated that I don't want to see a change in Texas law; I want to see instructors police ourselves and stop the harmful advertising practices
I agree.

I don't see a loophole and don't want a change in law, but I don't like seeing adverts for CHL classes with 'no range time' or whatever they put without specifying its a Utah license.