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Re: Difficultly Field Stripping 1911

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:55 am
by NEB
I have no troubles with my EMP, but the last Paraordinance I had was very tight to remove the slide stop. What I usually did was just use the bottom rear of a magazine against the opposite side to get it started. Saves having to hunt for another tool.

--NEB

Re: Difficultly Field Stripping 1911

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:31 am
by randomoutburst
I have determined that there is a VERY easy to way to take mine down...and I certainly learned the hard way.

My gun uses the RecoilMaster system, and their instructions indicate that I should take out the slide release lever, then attach the takedown piece to release tension on the springs, allowing me to safely remove the recoil system. If I lock back the slide before I do anything at all and attach the piece THEN, it removes tension and allows me to really work on getting the lever out without worrying about accidentally releasing the slide and letting it bite me. Then the slide comes right off, the spring system falls out, and the barrel is right behind it.

The only thing is...this ONLY works if the magazine is inserted until I pull the slide off. If it's not inserted, the slide releases while attaching my takedown piece. That's how I got bit earlier.

Anyway, knowing this little trick will save my fingers much pain, and me much frustration. Perhaps I'll make a video to show the easier way to take down an STI w/ a RecoilMaster.

Re: Difficultly Field Stripping 1911

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 6:44 am
by OldCannon
randomoutburst wrote: Perhaps I'll make a video to show the easier way to take down an STI w/ a RecoilMaster.
The world will love you for this :thumbs2:

Re: Difficultly Field Stripping 1911

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:35 am
by The Annoyed Man
randomoutburst wrote:I have determined that there is a VERY easy to way to take mine down...and I certainly learned the hard way.

My gun uses the RecoilMaster system, and their instructions indicate that I should take out the slide release lever, then attach the takedown piece to release tension on the springs, allowing me to safely remove the recoil system. If I lock back the slide before I do anything at all and attach the piece THEN, it removes tension and allows me to really work on getting the lever out without worrying about accidentally releasing the slide and letting it bite me. Then the slide comes right off, the spring system falls out, and the barrel is right behind it.

The only thing is...this ONLY works if the magazine is inserted until I pull the slide off. If it's not inserted, the slide releases while attaching my takedown piece. That's how I got bit earlier.

Anyway, knowing this little trick will save my fingers much pain, and me much frustration. Perhaps I'll make a video to show the easier way to take down an STI w/ a RecoilMaster.
I'm not familiar with the RecoilMaster system, but I do know this: no properly functioning 1911 should release the locked slide because you ejected a magazine. That's either a design flaw, or a manufacturing defect.

With a properly functioning 1911 pistol, you should be able to lock the slide back and eject the magazine. Then you should be able to use your RecoilMaster tool and proceed with the take down.

As to making a video, STI beat you to it.
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=B8cwe-MNPwk[/youtube]

Re: Difficultly Field Stripping 1911

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:45 am
by randomoutburst
The Annoyed Man wrote: I'm not familiar with the RecoilMaster system, but I do know this: no properly functioning 1911 should release the locked slide because you ejected a magazine. That's either a design flaw, or a manufacturing defect.

With a properly functioning 1911 pistol, you should be able to lock the slide back and eject the magazine. Then you should be able to use your RecoilMaster tool and proceed with the take down.

As to making a video, STI beat you to it.
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=B8cwe-MNPwk[/youtube]

No, no I don't break it down as shown in the video. Also, the reason I need the magazine in it is because I have to push the slide back just a little farther than the place where it locks back, and if the magazine isn't there, the lever drops and allows the slide to fall forward. If the magazine is there, you must manually unlock the slide.

Re: Difficultly Field Stripping 1911

Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:09 am
by O6nop
randomoutburst wrote:No, no I don't break it down as shown in the video. Also, the reason I need the magazine in it is because I have to push the slide back just a little farther than the place where it locks back, and if the magazine isn't there, the lever drops and allows the slide to fall forward. If the magazine is there, you must manually unlock the slide.
Sounds like you are using the wrong notch to pull the slide stop pin out. There is a semi-circle shaped notch that you would encounter before going into slide lock with the mag in. It sounds like you are using the slide lock notch to remove it.
EDIT: Reread the post, sorry, I think I misunderstood. But, I would do it just like the video. I have a kimber bull barrel and takedown is similar except the tool is a right-angle pin the diameter of a paperclip that goes into the recoil rod. Magazine in a gun while field stripping just sounded wrong.