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I've never had contact with them or their products. That, aside, that doesn't sound good.

Maybe they are out of pocket right now. I know it seems strange but to get a gunsmith around here i have to jump through hoops. So, getting someone to answer the phone in a machine shop maybe just as bad.

FWIW,

I met Jonathan Ciener at the "Shot Show" in Las Vegas 1998.
He has an excellent product, but he's one of the most rude folks I've met.

Well they haven't updated their website, nor have they responded to my calls.

I left them another message, but at this point I have little hope they will respond, and as such, do not anticipate purchasing their product.