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warhorse10_9 wrote:I have this: http://www.volquartsen.com/pictures/322-clip-loader" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ordered!

Buddy of mine has a p22, it's on my very short list. I have the browning buck mark that I got when I was 21. It's fun and accurate, but I bet the p22 sees alot of action.

Would anyone recommend this Ruger as a first-time pistol for a 10-12 year-old? I thought of getting my son a Walther P22 to train him on when he got a bit older, but if the Mark III is nice, I'd reconsider. Especially if there isn't much difference in price.

warhorse10_9 wrote:I have this: http://www.volquartsen.com/pictures/322-clip-loader

Its so awesome. No getting lead or copper residue all over your hands with this one. Takes about 10 seconds to load a magazine.

I have one of these as well and it is FANTASTIC!!!

PostShooter wrote:Would anyone recommend this Ruger as a first-time pistol for a 10-12 year-old? I thought of getting my son a Walther P22 to train him on when he got a bit older, but if the Mark III is nice, I'd reconsider. Especially if there isn't much difference in price

the Mark III is a nice weapon, mine is blued 5.5" , and $335 +tx at Academy, so not a horrible price.

My boss bought one for $460 recently (Stainless, etc) for him and his 8 year old son. His son shoots it very well, so I would recommend it.
Also the Mark III has a much longer barrel than the P22, so would be more accurate to shoot (obviously)

I got mine primarily for cheaper plinking but plan on having the wife try it out soon...I'll let you know how she does but recoil is minimal and the weapon is light enough for weaker shooters

Definitely a good gun for beginners. Cheap enough to use for practice and learning pistol handling. Able to withstand some abuse.

Teamless wrote:

PostShooter wrote:Would anyone recommend this Ruger as a first-time pistol for a 10-12 year-old? I thought of getting my son a Walther P22 to train him on when he got a bit older, but if the Mark III is nice, I'd reconsider. Especially if there isn't much difference in price

the Mark III is a nice weapon, mine is blued 5.5" , and $335 +tx at Academy, so not a horrible price.

My boss bought one for $460 recently (Stainless, etc) for him and his 8 year old son. His son shoots it very well, so I would recommend it.
Also the Mark III has a much longer barrel than the P22, so would be more accurate to shoot (obviously)

I have a stainless-bull 22/45. The nice thing about it is its a little lighter than the regular mkIII because of the polymer grip. It is set up as a trainer for a 1911(the controls are in the same place as a 1911). I think it would be a bit better than a p22 mainly because I have heard the p22 has issues with some standard velocity ammo, whereas the mkIII can eat just about anything.

Oh yeah, only cost me $330

PostShooter wrote:Would anyone recommend this Ruger as a first-time pistol for a 10-12 year-old? I thought of getting my son a Walther P22 to train him on when he got a bit older, but if the Mark III is nice, I'd reconsider. Especially if there isn't much difference in price.

I would strongly recommend the Ruger as a first pistol for anyone. It is a very good weapon, and one that he will be able to pass down to his kids as their first gun, with just a little care taken of it. I feel the same way about the Browning Buckmark (and my daughter will happily verify it as a great first gun). Between the two, I think the Ruger is actually slightly better but the Browning is usually slightly cheaper in price.

I think the Walther is a good gun also, and your son would be very happy with it. I would also consider the Beretta Neos. I put those two as equals and a notch below the Browning and Ruger. Both are also slightly less expensive than the two I consider top notch. But in all fairness, I have owned Brownings and Rugers but never owned either the Walther or the Neos. These are just my impressions of those two.

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WildBill wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:Well done! I have the 5.5" stainless hunter model. I love shooting that thing.

Two things to keep under consideration:

1. Easy to take down. An absolute woolly booger to put back together. Even following the directions in the owners manual to the letter won't work every time. Be patient.

Just for the record, I have never field-stripped my Ruger to clean it. I bought it 20 years ago from my brother, who owned it for 20 years and he claims that he never cleaned it. It continues to function perfectly.

After reading about what a pain it is, I bought a bore snake and a can of cleaner. If its working reliably, I'll just spray and snake it every time I use it. Until I get bored one day and have an afternoon to disassemble and reassemble it I guess.

That's pretty much what I wound up doing to, except that I use an Otis cleaning set with that flexible cable instead of a bore snake.

PostShooter wrote:Would anyone recommend this Ruger as a first-time pistol for a 10-12 year-old? I thought of getting my son a Walther P22 to train him on when he got a bit older, but if the Mark III is nice, I'd reconsider. Especially if there isn't much difference in price.

Whenever I teach a new shooter to shoot handguns, regardless of age, I start them on my 22/45. It's perfect for it. The recoil is practically nonexistant, and they are accurate little boogers too; so they are real good for teaching good technique.

As icing on the cake this gun was purchased with funds from selling a .45 I never carried or shot anymore. So all in all, a basically free gun and super cheap ammo. I'm pretty pleased..started smiling at the range and haven't stopped yet. By far the most fun I've ever had at the range and all I brought was a .22

have a buckmark and had a P22

My P22 was a disappointment

The Buckmark is about 15 years old
Its very reliable and very accurate

My P22 was neither accurate or reliable - it was sexy though
Sold it

Been wanting to get a Ruger because 22s are so much fun. Just havent dropped the $400 + plus on the 22/45 I want

92f-fan wrote:Just havent dropped the $400 + plus on the 22/45 I want

here is a pawn shop on El Dorado Blvd (Webster) if you are in the area, that has a 22/45 (used) marked at $350.
It has a stainless barrel.
I offered them $200, they passed, and countered at $275. As I already have a 22/45, I would have bought it for $240, but not $275.
But for $275, for a first one, even used, I think its a great price, especially when the new stainless are $400 +