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USA1 wrote:+1 for considering a j frame revolver. I carried a LCP for a while but had a nagging concern that a .380 was just not powerful enough to quickly bring a threat to a stop.

I eventually opted for the more substantial .38special+p and have never looked back.

Revolvers are hard to beat for reliability and still have a place in personal protection.

I can understand wanting to go to a .45 from a .380... but the newer .380's (computer designed. Old ones often didn't expand on impact) are said to be equivalent in penetration and inertial force as a .38 special plus. I haven't any reports to point to, other than Tom gresham on GUNTALK radio last year apologizing for going off of old ballistics studies. For years he said a .380 was not an adequate self defense round. He said he had just come back from a week at GUNSITE where they demonstrated to him the efficacy of the .380. Not being critical of anyones choice of carry, just suggesting there may not be as much difference anymore in .380/38/9mm as there used to be. I would think the main difference might be distance, as .380 has a shorter range.

Something like a compact 9mm/.45 that is single stack easily goes into cargo pants or front pocket of pleated slacks. Here is my Para Carry 9 as such (WHICH btw is for sale...cough cough).

wgoforth wrote:(WHICH btw is for sale...cough cough).

If you can match, or even come close, to the TCP/LCP Price, I would gladly take it off of your hands

Teamless wrote:

wgoforth wrote:(WHICH btw is for sale...cough cough).

If you can match, or even come close, to the TCP/LCP Price, I would gladly take it off of your hands

Yup I can! The TCP/LCP price would be around $600!

wgoforth wrote:Yup I can! The TCP/LCP price would be around $600!

LOL
Not quite, but close LOL

Teamless wrote:

wgoforth wrote:Yup I can! The TCP/LCP price would be around $600!

LOL
Not quite, but close LOL

Ohhh, you meant LCP OR TCP..... thought you meant combined....

Teamless, I had some of the same ideas myself. I ended up getting the Ruger LCR357. I have that same holster that TAM has and I can carry it in my pocket easy anytime. Its about the same weight as the LCP but packs quite a bit more punch. And at the same time, the reliability of a revolver is just dirt simple. No slide mechanism to get in the way, no jams, no worries. I carry it in my strong side pocket and a couple speed loaders in the right. The only time I have a problem with it is when the pockets on the shorts are simply too short for some reason. I have one pair like that and I think I just put them away and stopped wearing them. But with that holser

I still tend to carry my Kahr IWB most of the time, but when I need a pocket piece, its the LCR. However, I'm still thinking about an LCP or maybe even that S&W Bodyguard 380 just to have a BUG somewhere else.

I went to Academy the other day, just seeing what they had and what I had to have LOL.

they had a Sig 238

Nice feel
Nice look
and I have seen a lot of people talk about them on here, all in positive manners

So, I thought it may be a good pocket carry (with pocket holster of course)
Until i see it does not have a decocker.

So I am curious.
you load the mag, insert mag, rack the slide and now have a loaded chamber, with the hammer back.
How do you safely unload the weapon?

I ask, as the only way I have ever know how to bring a hammer forward, is either a decocker, or hold the hammer, gently pull the trigger and bring the hammer down slowly. While this may not be the right way and no, I have never done it, but have seen people do it this way.

I think for the price, I would probably fall back to the SW Bodyguard, but as this was a nice weapon, for just a few more $ dollars than the bodyguard, it is a thought...

Teamless wrote:
So I am curious.
you load the mag, insert mag, rack the slide and now have a loaded chamber, with the hammer back.
How do you safely unload the weapon?

Fire till empty.

Seriously though, you unload it just as you'd unload a 1911.
With gun pointed in a safe direction, finger off of the trigger, remove the mag and pull the slide back to eject the round. Then double check and triple check to make sure it's empty.

phrogg wrote: The only time I have a problem with it is when the pockets on the shorts are simply too short for some reason. I have one pair like that and I think I just put them away and stopped wearing them.

I had the same issue with my pocket carry, a hammerless Taurus .357. The best shorts I've had are Lee Dungaree Cargo shorts....the pockets are large and deep. Perfect for a revolver.

74novaman wrote:

phrogg wrote: The only time I have a problem with it is when the pockets on the shorts are simply too short for some reason. I have one pair like that and I think I just put them away and stopped wearing them.

I had the same issue with my pocket carry, a hammerless Taurus .357. The best shorts I've had are Lee Dungaree Cargo shorts....the pockets are large and deep. Perfect for a revolver.

Whenever I am "shorts shopping", the first thing I do (before even trying them on) is stick my hand in the pocket to check for depth and room to accommodate a J frame.

USA1 wrote:remove the mag and pull the slide back to eject the round.

Thanks, I guess I need one more question answered
When I load it and want to pocket it, do I have to drop the hammer (safely), or leave it ready and just engage the safety?
I guess this should have been my original question.

Teamless wrote:

USA1 wrote:remove the mag and pull the slide back to eject the round.

Thanks, I guess I need one more question answered
When I load it and want to pocket it, do I have to drop the hammer (safely), or leave it ready and just engage the safety?
I guess this should have been my original question.

I would leave it loaded with one in the pipe, hammer back and safety on.

You should never lower the hammer with a round in the chamber IMO. It's an accident waiting to happen.

USA1 wrote:It's an accident waiting to happen.

that was my concern as well. I wonder why they didn't put a decocker on it.
For pocket carry, the hammer back is just one more thing to get the weapon caught on I would think

the kahr pm9, j frame .38 and LCP are all highly concealeable wyatt (with you all the time) pocket guns. My experience is they work in any pocket. A baby glock can be carried in many but not all pockets.

My present daily carry is kahr pm9. I have also regularly carried a jframe.38 and on weekends carry a baby glock.