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Re: concealment question
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 12:22 pm
by texanron
Thanks Annoyed Man for taking time to issue a well thought out and well written reply.
Re: concealment question
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 8:36 am
by kjolly
It's not happened to me yet but remember when carrying you may not know you have been made until a small crowd of police become very interested in you. Don't be surprised, or act quilty. Keep hands away from gun and repond polietly so they can satisfy themselves. I suspect this can happen so quickly you could be taken unaware. Seen to many news articles where "man with gun" has been shot. Don't give them any reason and don't argue about 2A rights. They will be doing their job.
Concealed has always ment concealed to me.
Re: concealment question
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2011 9:14 am
by speedsix
...demeanor and bearing and the attitude you display when approached by police do a lot to dial their responses up or down...polite, calm, even, no raising voice or acting irate...goes a long way towards calming their fears...most seasoned officers become expert at "reading" people quickly...
Re: concealment question
Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2011 12:51 pm
by Beiruty
Just note if you carry OWB with T-shirt as cover, the outline of the pistol could be most of time seen, and that is truly a printing and you get AMWG call. IWB would usually only leave the grip printing and some would get confused and think it is cell phone. However, those who carry can assume any bulge at 3:30 is concealed gun.
Re: concealment question
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 4:37 pm
by RockingRook
The Annoyed Man wrote:
Ron, no worries. The individual in question you mentioned actually unintentionally exposed his gun. He was at a tax office, or something like that, and when he stood up, his shirt had ridden up and his gun was momentarily exposed to a woman sitting behind him. It wasn't a matter of "printing."
She called the law, and he was confronted and arrested out in the parking lot, well after the unintentional exposure took place. As far as what your instructor told you... he's right. It's not acceptable. But neither is it illegal because it does not constitute "intentional failure to conceal." For that matter, our forum member who got arrested did not "intentionally fail to conceal" either, and you're right that he got arrested anyway. But at the end of the day, neither did he get convicted—which gives credence to the old adage that "you might beat the time, but you won't beat the ride." Yes, it was expensive, and it should have never happened, but he is a free man today—and there is a valuable lesson in it for all of us.
I have a question about this and if it sounds dumb I am sorry but have to ask. I sometimes carry a "fanny pack" most times I carry a low riding IWB holster and my gun is concealed very well. Just suppose someone thinks I am carrying and they call the police. The police come and ask for my ID. I give them my TDL and my CHL. They then ask if I am armed. I say, "Yes!!" Now the lady
did not really see anything but she reported me because she thought I was carrying. As it turned out she was right. Do I get arrested? I know that most people would not do that but just suppose. Will a valid CHL holder get arrested if he has a gun in a fanny pack or on his person because someone made the accusation and happened to be right?
Chuck
Re: concealment question
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 9:32 pm
by johnson0317
Not likely. Guns in fanny packs do not tend to unconceal themselves to the general public, and the cops would know that. Unless the woman guessed right, and then lied about you failing to conceal, then I think this issue is moot (or as they say in this part of Texas...mute).
RJ