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Re: Road rage confrontation.

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 7:44 am
by Oldgringo
v-rog wrote:I recommend calling the cops right away if it is that serious. You don't know her- she could pull a gun and surprise you. Could be a psycho that just got out of jail or the hospital. Human behavior is not predictable.
...and/or the male could have been her husband/boyfriend. Ask the LEO's how they like intervening in a domestic disturbance.

Did someone above mention Batman?

Re: Road rage confrontation.

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 9:46 am
by v-rog
I'm not sure about now but years ago Domestic disturbances were the most dangerous calls that the police responded to. :fire

Re: Road rage confrontation.

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 3:23 pm
by texanron
I get the sense that some folks just don't agree with getting involved under any circumstances. "Good Samaritan....please...that guy might have a gun....I'll just call someone and hope they're ok by the time the authorities get here."

Re: Road rage confrontation.

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 4:49 pm
by dicion
texanron wrote:I get the sense that some folks just don't agree with getting involved under any circumstances. "Good Samaritan....please...that guy might have a gun....I'll just call someone and hope they're ok by the time the authorities get here."
I understand what you're saying, and I understand what they're saying. Every situation is different, and noone can know for sure what theyre going to do until it's there. Obviously a lot of us have the desire to assist a fellow human being in trouble, but at the same time, by doing so, you open yourself to potentially a lot more trouble as well. Each situation has a different tradeoff level of this, and each situation would have to be considered individually to determine what you might do.

For example. Mid-day, busy freeway, you're driving down the road, behind some senior couple in an older Cadillac (that you've already noticed is an older couple because you passed them, they passed you, clear windows, or something that allowed you to see them before the blowout. Point is, you know its an elderly couple in the car.), and they have a blowout in front of you.
I'm pretty sure a large majority of us would immediately pull over behind them and see what we could do to help.

Same Freeway, Same time of day, same situation, however instead of an older couple, in an older caddy, it's a brand new tricked out Escalade with giant rims and limo tinted windows. They have a blowout in front of you. Now I'm sure some people would do the exact same thing as above, pull over and help, however, I'm certain that some others would hesitate to do so, and rather pull out their phone and call for assistance while continuing to drive by.

Same Freeway, late at night. Low traffic. This time, the vehicle is just sitting on the side of the road, with the driver trying to flag someone down. You did not personally witness anything that would cause their vehicle to require assistance, so you don't know what's going on.
Now, the first thing lots of people are going to ask, even if they don't want to admit it: What does the driver look like?
An Elderly Woman: I think most people would stop
An Elderly Gentleman: Less people that the woman, but still most people.
... and it continues down the list until
A Punk High Teens, or low 20's kid, with his pants almost at his knees, a bandana around his head, and lots of gold jewelry: Most people would probably not stop.

My point being that Every situation has thousands of different things that would make it different from any other situation, and no two people will react the same way to every one. Each person will assess the situation, and decide for themselves if the potential risk to themselves outweighs their beliefs and desires to help others.

Obviously, some people put themselves & their families first, and will not do anything if it involves any, percieved, or actual, risk to them. They are the ones who generally say "If they want protection, let them get their own CHL". This is not necessarily wrong, rather they are playing it safe, and watching out for them and their family first and foremost.

There are others that are willing to help people at almost any risk to themselves. They are not wrong either, as it is just their belief that kindness to fellow man outweighs all else.

Most people are probably somewhere in the middle, and decide each situation on a case by case basis.

Just my 2c :thumbs2:

Re: Road rage confrontation.

Posted: Sat Jul 02, 2011 6:51 pm
by v-rog
Helping can be defined by calling the proper authorities. Going to the extreme of either putting yourself in the middle of an incident or doing nothing at all is worrisome. Calling someone who has the resources and back-up is preferred.

Re: Road rage confrontation.

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:39 am
by 03Lightningrocks
I probably would have told you to mind your own business. If you insisted on being part of the confrontation, turned all my powers to putting you down, out of the fear you may be a danger to my safety. The lady yelling at me would not have been a problem to me, but you jumping in would have flat out scared me into condition EXTREME RED! Not knowing you from Adam, I would have no way of knowing just who you were babbling at.

You should have called security or the cops if you really believed there was a possible situation developing. Hero wannabe syndrome can cause a situation to get worse than if it had been left alone. Maybe observe and see if the lady walks away. You over reacted in this situation. Maybe she would have just stopped as her victim walked away. Instead, your out there with a lady boohooing and crying all over the place. If a situation requires a cop... one should call a cop. There was no crime taking place and you have no special training to determine if one was about to take place.

Re: Road rage confrontation.

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 4:11 am
by OldCurlyWolf
Oldgringo wrote:
v-rog wrote:I recommend calling the cops right away if it is that serious. You don't know her- she could pull a gun and surprise you. Could be a psycho that just got out of jail or the hospital. Human behavior is not predictable.
...and/or the male could have been her husband/boyfriend. Ask the LEO's how they like intervening in a domestic disturbance.

Did someone above mention Batman?
The answer about domestics, as old gringo well knows, is not one bit. Though they will usually couch it in language that is much stronger than this board allows.
:coolgleamA:

Re: Road rage confrontation.

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 7:24 am
by v-rog
I'm not sure I understand your comment? Please expand.
OldCurlyWolf wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:
v-rog wrote:I recommend calling the cops right away if it is that serious. You don't know her- she could pull a gun and surprise you. Could be a psycho that just got out of jail or the hospital. Human behavior is not predictable.
...and/or the male could have been her husband/boyfriend. Ask the LEO's how they like intervening in a domestic disturbance.

Did someone above mention Batman?
The answer about domestics, as old gringo well knows, is not one bit. Though they will usually couch it in language that is much stronger than this board allows.
:coolgleamA:

Re: Road rage confrontation.

Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 12:40 pm
by Fangs
v-rog wrote:I'm not sure I understand your comment? Please expand.
OldCurlyWolf wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:
v-rog wrote:I recommend calling the cops right away if it is that serious. You don't know her- she could pull a gun and surprise you. Could be a psycho that just got out of jail or the hospital. Human behavior is not predictable.
...and/or the male could have been her husband/boyfriend. Ask the LEO's how they like intervening in a domestic disturbance.

Did someone above mention Batman?
The answer about domestics, as old gringo well knows, is not one bit. Though they will usually couch it in language that is much stronger than this board allows.
:coolgleamA:
:tiphat: