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Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:59 pm
by philip964
The American pass time of baseball is becoming very popular recently in England.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/movers-and-s ... g_bsms_tab" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Up 8000% recently.

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:25 pm
by Excaliber
can2boy wrote:now the prime minister is considering rubber bullets! the rioters are shaking in their boots!
Oh, no, not rubber bullets!!

Maybe they could soften the blow by calling them "elastomeric projectiles"........

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:28 pm
by mamabearCali
This is what happens when you have an entitlement society combined with removing your citizens ability to defend themselves. Things get nasty and fast.

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 1:50 pm
by TDDude
Drudge has some amazing images coming from London. I wonder what they're going to outlaw next? Matches? Bic lighters?
http://www.drudgereport.com/

This looks historic.

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thugs are forcing folks to strip so they can steal their clothes.

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As far as I care, those good Londoners deserve what's happening. Normal citizens can't defend themselves against any type of mob so they get what they get.

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:51 pm
by 74novaman
philip964 wrote:The American pass time of baseball is becoming very popular recently in England.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/movers-and-s ... g_bsms_tab" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Up 8000% recently.
Sales of aluminum bats on amazon uk are now up 24,000%

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:25 pm
by Carl in Katy
I think I 've figured out how to fix this... SEND MORE MONEY TO AFRICA!!! :clapping:

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:28 pm
by Texas Dan Mosby
'The way we police in Britain is not through use of water cannon. The way we police in Britain is through consent of communities.'
I guess the "consent" they are looking for comes from the criminal community and not the law-abiding types. What a shame.

I understand and support peaceful protest, however, when "protesting" turns into rioting and looting, I fully expect LEO's to use force to immediately restore order. "Petrol" bomb = deadly weapon IMO, and warrants a sucking chest wound. A violent mob can not be reasoned with, or controlled, by anything other than force, deadly or otherwise.

IMO, this is yet another example of the importance of our second amendment. There are many possible threats to the "security of a free state". Freedom and security can be threatened by the lawlessness of citizens within a nation or state, just as easily as it can from external sources or corrupt government. When "official" channels FAIL to secure freedom, than it's up to the citizens to do so themselves. The citizens of London were NOT free to lawfully go about their lives during these riots, and the police did NOTHING to restore their freedom.

During the LA riots, Korean store owners formed their own protective militia to defend their lives and property, as did citizens in neighborhoods surrounding New Orleans during the Katrina catastrophe. And they weren't armed with baseball bats...

I can think of no other time where it would become more important to band together as armed citizens for a common defense, than in the midst of a lawless violent rioting mob. We pay our LEO's to do their jobs so WE don't have to, however, when they CAN'T or WON'T, it's time to grab a rifle, get on line, and pull security.

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:38 pm
by speedsix
...sign me up...and you don't need a hunting license...them animals ain't worth skinnin'...

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:27 pm
by 74novaman
AndyC wrote:
Texas Dan Mosby wrote:...I fully expect LEO's to use force to immediately restore order. "Petrol" bomb = deadly weapon IMO, and warrants a sucking chest wound. A violent mob can not be reasoned with, or controlled, by anything other than force, deadly or otherwise.

... when they CAN'T or WON'T, it's time to grab a rifle, get on line, and pull security.
I'll stand next to ya, Dan :cheers2:
:iagree:

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:35 pm
by Hoosier Daddy
Texas Dan Mosby wrote:When "official" channels FAIL to secure freedom, than it's up to the citizens to do so themselves. The citizens of London were NOT free to lawfully go about their lives during these riots, and the police did NOTHING to restore their freedom.
Like others said, the socialist/entitlement mentality is producing exactly the results it was designed to.

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 6:20 pm
by VMI77
An interesting analysis of the rioting in the UK and a forecast of things to come:

http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2011/08 ... s-end.html

Excerpts:

Rand's looters take on a more literal meaning in Tottenham. Smashing store windows and grabbing what's inside is only the protest for more government handouts taken directly to the businesses who fund it without the bother of a government middle man

Divestment is the common denominator. Neither the middle-class white or lower-class black rioter is invested in his society. The white rioter is a globalist, the black rioter is an outsider. Neither are invested in the city and country they are busy trashing.

The left's motives for rebelling are different than those of minority looters. But the end result is similar enough. A disregard for the civilization becomes a disregard for its laws. And that leaves self-interest as the only hedge against anarchy. But what interest do people who do not work for a living have in preserving the businesses of others? None at all. As far as they are concerned, smash a store, it will collect the insurance, and reopen, or another will open up in its place. And even if it doesn't, then so what? It's not "our businesses" anyway.

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 8:48 pm
by philip964
According to reports the people are burning the shops and businesses for fun. They don't even bother looting.

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:52 pm
by Beiruty
Can the shop owner sue the goverment for failure to defend their properties? Or, who is going to pay for the damages and lost live-long family business?

Re: Riots in London

Posted: Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:19 am
by chasfm11
Fox News is reporting on air this morning that last night some communities were banding together to protect themselves when the police could not. They showed a brief clip a of a guy who said that the looters were not going to wreck his community.

The report also said that citizens were banding together to protect houses of worship. Apparently stores are not the only targets.

Apparently, the police are afraid that the citizens are beat up on any rioters they catch and further inflame the situation. I guess it is better to just the looters have their way than to make them mad. :banghead: