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seamusTX wrote:Reporting on these stories evolves rapidly.

This is most unfortunate, if true:

In front of the shop owner the husband got out his own loaded gun. It fired, hitting [the victim].

http://www.whptv.com/news/local/story/U ... uUT4w.cspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The coroner ruled the death a homicide:
http://www.fox43.com/news/wpmt-gun-stor ... 8909.story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

My feeling is that this was a disastrous accident. If the husband wanted to whack his wife, he could have devised a better cover-up without witnesses. However, anything is possible.

This story is now worldwide news, BTW. Pretty much every unusual shooting in the U.S. becomes that.

- Jim

Heartland Patriot wrote:Also, since I know a significant number of you folks absolutely LOVE your small DAO pistols, someone tell me: how stiff is the trigger pull on those little Kel-tec 9mm pistols?

AndyC wrote:

Heartland Patriot wrote: It's as simple as that - although I do seem to recall someone here saying that the concept makes them laugh every time they read it - takes all kinds, I guess

No need to hide names that would be me.... It’s funny because it’s untrue, or at least misleading. I understand your stated opinion and position behind the statement, and I agree.
It is misleading or untrue , because way to many "Professionals" a title they, their peers, there certificates awarded the title "professional" and yet are unqualified to own a weapon let alone use or carry it. Those “Professionals”, a title freely used to describe them by most, DO skip safety checks, do not act professionally, and yet still will be described my most as “Professional "...LEO, Military, Security guard, Private security working in non us countries.
For all of that I find the misleading statement “Amateurs skip safety-checks - pros don't.” Laughable

I do agree with your position though, once I understood it.

If someone skips safety-checks, they're not a pro ie. not handling the firearm professionally

AndyC wrote:

seamusTX wrote:The coroner ruled the death a homicide:
http://www.fox43.com/news/wpmt-gun-stor ... 8909.story" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And of course "homicide" doesn't necessarily mean "murder" - it simply means that someone caused the death of another, whether by accident or design - but we've almost become conditioned to think of it that way thanks to TV shows, etc.

And speaking of Kel-tecs - it had to have been one hefty pull of the trigger to make it fire, surely?

seamusTX wrote: As I said, most if not all Kel-Tecs are DAO. They have a long trigger pull, and the trigger force is enough that it is not easy to keep a steady aim without a fair amount of practice.

DAO means every shot has the same pull—not like the Beretta 92F or M9 and its many work-alikes.

I can't imagine firing a DAO Kel-Tec by accident.