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Shirt tail, corner of a holster or ..... holster's "retention strap" ... just pay attention to what you're doing.

DONT TREAD ON ME wrote:

RPB wrote:I have thought about sliding mine under the seat, but under my seats are usually fishing rulers, fishing floats, and misc stuff that rolled under there from my niece ... so I use the floorboard/garbage bag as I can see that the trigger won't catch on some surprise thing she stashed under the seat.


I found an ear ring in my foot yesterday, I wasn't even hoping for a piercing ... that 16 year old is about like the girls I raised when they were in their "terrible twos" always a surprise, but so far no Easter eggs in a drawer to save for Christmas (I'll never forget that one) ...

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Beiruty wrote:

RPB wrote:

40khammer wrote:I remove the gun from the holster before entering those areas and secure the gun in the car. When I return I just reholster. Like others said. Keep your finger off the trigger and NDs won't happen. If your holster is designed in such a way that an ND is a risk during reholstering then you definitely need a new holster. If I'm going into a 30.06 area I put an OWB holster on and keep it empty and walk around like that. My own little protest. I heard of a lot of students doing this when campaigning for campus carry.

I like that .... now I need to buy an OWB holster; just for those rare occasions.

How about buying a blue plastic pistol to go with that empty holster?

...maybe YOU wanna be the test case for impersonating an armed CHLer, I don't...you might beat the ride but they might shoot your hide...no, wait...you might...aw nebbermind...I just always wanted to say that junk....

johnson0317 wrote:I guess there is always a chance that you could hook a piece of your shirt in the trigger guard, stranger things have happened. If I have to do this, I either leave it concealed and unholstered, or I lean forward while tucking into my forward-canted SuperTuck. If it went off, it would go backward and down. I would feel like an idiot, but I would feel like an intact idiot.

RJ

Just to be clear, I'm quit comfortable with my holster, Hanks IWB, and what johnson0317, has stated more "a double thinking" and extra Precautions, thinking about piece of shirt hooked..I've only been carrying Glock for less then a year, and sometime can be said about being over being over comfortable or over confidence.. could pose a problem..

When, you remove your weapon, have you consider the video camera's everywhere... You may think your dark windows will hide you, but what happens if a security person see's you and zooms in.. Is this considers a a violation ? I mean there are cameras everywhere

BAT

The Annoyed Man wrote:I don't obsess. I just look around to make sure that there is nobody nearby watching, and then I pull the gun while I'm still sitting in the car and slide it under the seat. If I'm going to be more than a minute, I unlock my little under-seat lock-box, lock the gun in it and slide it back under the seat. Reverse when I return. If I am far enough away to where I am pretty sure that there are no observers anywhere near by, I'll get out of the car first, unholster and put the gun away, and then re-holster it that way when I get back. But for me, that is more of a comfort thing than a safety thing. I just don't let anything, including my booger-hook, get inside the trigger guard. It's not that hard to do.

However, in general, I just don't go inside places where I can't carry. About the only exception to that is gun shows............and no, I don't want to start another of the endless "why can't I carry in a gun show?" threads.

That is it exactly. I think the ONLY place I go with my weapon Im required to disarm is the Post Office, and ER... the 1st is planed, the second happens more then I care to admit, and it's never negligent

bat1 wrote:

johnson0317 wrote:I guess there is always a chance that you could hook a piece of your shirt in the trigger guard, stranger things have happened. If I have to do this, I either leave it concealed and unholstered, or I lean forward while tucking into my forward-canted SuperTuck. If it went off, it would go backward and down. I would feel like an idiot, but I would feel like an intact idiot.

RJ

Just to be clear, I'm quit comfortable with my holster, Hanks IWB, and what johnson0317, has stated more "a double thinking" and extra Precautions, thinking about piece of shirt hooked..I've only been carrying Glock for less then a year, and sometime can be said about being over being over comfortable or over confidence.. could pose a problem..

When, you remove your weapon, have you consider the video camera's everywhere... You may think your dark windows will hide you, but what happens if a security person see's you and zooms in.. Is this considers a a violation ? I mean there are cameras everywhere

BAT

While I can't speak for every place in the state, I can speak for the cameras where I work. I work security at a hospital on my off days from my primary job. We have some really nice cameras with really high resolution, but you still can't see inside a car. Even at nighttime with the inside light turned on you still cant. Best you can hope for is a silhouette. But even if they could see it. The law pretty much says concealed means a reasonable person couldn't see it. If some security guard is zooming in a super high res camera on your vehicle then he's probably not doing what he's supposed to be doing. The cameras where I work are there in case something happens so they'll have video evidence. We don't just sit there and watch the cameras, we're supposed to be on constant patrol.


When I get somewhere that I have to unholster I don't even park in the back. I'll pull right up to whatever spot I want and just make sure nobody is staring into my car when I pull it out(no pun intended)

I tend to avoid places that I cannot carry. When I do have to remove, I remove holster and gun together. Slowly, carefully, and methodically. Then they go into locked console until I return.

SpringerFan wrote:, I remove holster and gun together. Slowly, carefully, and methodically. Then they go into locked console until I return.

I see that response a lot in this forum.... I did not realize so many folks use paddle or clip on holsters.. I own off the top of my head 14-hand guns, each with at least one holster, many 2 or three. The only clip on holster I have is the IWB we all love…,, But I’d be hard pressed to remove it from my belt with my pants still on And I’d be more likely to get rousted by LEOS with my paints off then them noticing my take my gun from my holster... In know I know, but what about an ND…. Well I hate to admit it, but I have not trained though repetition on ND’s very well, or ever…So I just never seem to have one

I use a supertuck and a comp-tac spartan. If I loosen my belt a little, either one will slide up and out of my pants pretty easily. Even from a seated position in a vehicle, just grab each clip and lift. Keeps the gun safely in kydex.

bronco78 wrote:When I disarm, the gun comes out of the holster, by OWB belt holster is not coming off.
I have never understood the fearful position many folks on this list present with handling a weapon . ie, don’t handle it excessive it might go off” “never handle the gun more than required, you might have an ND” both of those phrases and MANY more are found in post here, and I find them curious. If you know in advance you are unqualified to handle a weapon, (the only reason for such a mental position like those above IMHO) Then put the unloaded weapon back in the gun safe until you can get the training, practice sufficiently to not be so concerned that you will mishandle your weapon. Being so scared of your weapon, you refuse to touch it out of a holster for fear it will go off, is simply unfathomable to me.

I agree with you but many years ago I remember reading that some large police departments started requiring their plain clothes officers to use paddle holsters so that they could remove their guns and secure them in their desk without removing them from their holsters. They were having too many NDs.

SpringerFan wrote:I use a supertuck and a comp-tac spartan. If I loosen my belt a little, either one will slide up and out of my pants pretty easily. Even from a seated position in a vehicle, just grab each clip and lift. Keeps the gun safely in kydex.

That is the one holster I own with clips,, but man, those clips work.,, And I found the really scare up my gun belts if I try and drag the metal clips over the belt with any tension. Better to unthread the belt from the clips.

And again for the "Keeps the gun safely in kydex" What make the gun unsafe out of Kydex?

I see comments like that and think.. My guns have never fired themselves, in holster or out, they only go bang when I ask them to.... And then, if I one was that concerned that one might have an ND with the weapon out outside the holster in non stressful events like, disarming at the post office or at home at night, or, whatever, what’s going to happen when the weapon needs to be drawn in a stress filled event?

To any and all, that is not a flame about ones chosen practices JUst how my mind works about things like a required task, it's accidental risks, what one does to mitigate such risks and the risidual risk.

wharvey wrote:

bronco78 wrote:When I disarm, the gun comes out of the holster, by OWB belt holster is not coming off.
I have never understood the fearful position many folks on this list present with handling a weapon . ie, don’t handle it excessive it might go off” “never handle the gun more than required, you might have an ND” both of those phrases and MANY more are found in post here, and I find them curious. If you know in advance you are unqualified to handle a weapon, (the only reason for such a mental position like those above IMHO) Then put the unloaded weapon back in the gun safe until you can get the training, practice sufficiently to not be so concerned that you will mishandle your weapon. Being so scared of your weapon, you refuse to touch it out of a holster for fear it will go off, is simply unfathomable to me.

I agree with you but many years ago I remember reading that some large police departments started requiring their plain clothes officers to use paddle holsters so that they could remove their guns and secure them in their desk without removing them from their holsters. They were having too many NDs.

A common administrator reaction to what is a leadership decision, action needed.. Address the symptom, not the training issue is common when desk jockeys are allowed to lead.

I see it all to often in my job.
We call them leaf eaters... a Meat eater would have worked the team, individual at the drill or task at hand till sweat and blood was present in equal amounts, and the same result would have been reached.. NO ND's. The ADMIN type found an easy solution.

RPB wrote:I found an ear ring in my foot yesterday, I wasn't even hoping for a piercing ... that 16 year old is about like the girls I raised when they were in their "terrible twos"

Join the club - I've donated skin and blood more than once, courtesy of jewelry my wife has dropped, usually unknowingly.

wharvey wrote:

bronco78 wrote:When I disarm, the gun comes out of the holster, by OWB belt holster is not coming off.
I have never understood the fearful position many folks on this list present with handling a weapon . ie, don’t handle it excessive it might go off” “never handle the gun more than required, you might have an ND” both of those phrases and MANY more are found in post here, and I find them curious. If you know in advance you are unqualified to handle a weapon, (the only reason for such a mental position like those above IMHO) Then put the unloaded weapon back in the gun safe until you can get the training, practice sufficiently to not be so concerned that you will mishandle your weapon. Being so scared of your weapon, you refuse to touch it out of a holster for fear it will go off, is simply unfathomable to me.

I agree with you but many years ago I remember reading that some large police departments started requiring their plain clothes officers to use paddle holsters so that they could remove their guns and secure them in their desk without removing them from their holsters. They were having too many NDs.

We are talking police here, not your average careful CHL...present company excepted of course.

bat1 wrote: Now, when I return, as I placed the weapon back in the holster it tends to really wonder how safe it is.. The holster is a Hanks IWB, and as it feeds in, it makes me look look really carefully if part of the shirt could cause a "ND" ...

Sounds like you are talking about the shirt getting caught as you reholster... I think the best solution is a holster with a sweat/shirt guard.