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texasmusic wrote:

03Lightningrocks wrote:

texasmusic wrote:I never cared to follow what Houston was doing while she was alive and i dont care more now that she isnt. Just turning off the news for another week or so as the circus will be in full force.

When my daughter was a kid, she made us watch a movie Whitney was in but I think Keven Costner was the reason my daughter wanted to watch it. I bet we watched that dumb movie 50 times... I have the VHS tape...LOL.

Is it bad that I am going to watch the season premier of Walking Dead tonight instead of the grammy's...???

Gearing up to watch TWD here too. Never watched grammies probably never will.

Woohoo!!! Thank Goodness for DVR... !!! I am a few minutes behind but I like watching without commercials.

How terribly sad. Drugs are hard on a person, Whitney did a bunch of them. Just sad.

Sometimes the addiction is simply stronger than the person...sad stuff, regardless of who it was.

texasmusic wrote: Gearing up to watch TWD here too. Never watched grammies probably never will.

I'm not a fan of the Grammies either because, like many other awards, it is more based on politics than talent and results.

That said, there are some really talented people who have not followed the same path that Whitney Houston did. Taylor Swift is one of them. Our 8 year old granddaughter met her in person and based on what happened during those meetings, Taylor is a genuine caring person, whether you like her style of music or not.

God gives many people talent. Some, like Taylor Swift, use it to enrich the lives of others. Some waste it on their own personal excesses. Whitney Houston had a beautiful, powerful voice. It is a shame that she didn't find a different path to share it. RIP.

strider67 wrote:Sometimes the addiction is simply stronger than the person...sad stuff, regardless of who it was.

Yepper, look what happened to Tiger Woods.

I'm so thankful that I avoided all those rich famous girls (and guys) who chased me saying "Hey Adam, lookie what the snake said we could eat" Easy trap to fall into.... A good friend while I was growing up, Dennis Quaid, (had the gym locker by mine and played at my house after school, we had a badminton court) now recovered from the pit, is a good illustration of staying on the right path and the consequences of straying from it, and recovering, if done in time.

I agree that she shouldn't have done the drugs. Where I am willing to cut her a bit of a break is based on the environment she lived and worked in. The celebrity world has a nasty habit (no pun intended) of chewing up and spitting out it's participants at a breakneck pace. Having spent some time working with celebrities, the fawning servitude (albeit mostly false) that overwhelms them once they start to gain fame and money definately contributes to an unreal estimation of their abilites to overcome any challenge. It is sickening to see fans and sycophants reinforcing the sense of power that celebs have. These celebs tend to lose perspective and are too often presented with all kinds of options to do stupid things while their "support" tells them they can do no wrong.
She shouldn't have done the drugs, but I can see how it came to be.

rwg3 wrote:I agree that she shouldn't have done the drugs. Where I am willing to cut her a bit of a break is based on the environment she lived and worked in. The celebrity world has a nasty habit (no pun intended) of chewing up and spitting out it's participants at a breakneck pace. Having spent some time working with celebrities, the fawning servitude (albeit mostly false) that overwhelms them once they start to gain fame and money definately contributes to an unreal estimation of their abilites to overcome any challenge. It is sickening to see fans and sycophants reinforcing the sense of power that celebs have. These celebs tend to lose perspective and are too often presented with all kinds of options to do stupid things while their "support" tells them they can do no wrong.
She shouldn't have done the drugs, but I can see how it came to be.

Much like politicians ... they lose touch

RPB wrote:

rwg3 wrote:I agree that she shouldn't have done the drugs. Where I am willing to cut her a bit of a break is based on the environment she lived and worked in. The celebrity world has a nasty habit (no pun intended) of chewing up and spitting out it's participants at a breakneck pace. Having spent some time working with celebrities, the fawning servitude (albeit mostly false) that overwhelms them once they start to gain fame and money definately contributes to an unreal estimation of their abilites to overcome any challenge. It is sickening to see fans and sycophants reinforcing the sense of power that celebs have. These celebs tend to lose perspective and are too often presented with all kinds of options to do stupid things while their "support" tells them they can do no wrong.
She shouldn't have done the drugs, but I can see how it came to be.

Much like politicians ... they lose touch

Very good analogy!

I wonder if it is about to turn into another "Michael Jackson Type" situation where they go after the doctor or doctors that prescribed her all the drugs she wanted? These celebraties can have and get anything they desire and they choose drugs!!! What a waste!!!

I have little sympathy for this tragedy. It's awful that another human life has been lost to their own inability to maturely handle the trappings of their own fame. Her daughters melodrama is a cry for help, I hope she finds it. In the wake of these events, I've found the near-beattification of this celebrity nauseating. She had it all, and made the choices she made that brought it all down. HER CHOICES. HER FAILURES. HER RESPONSIBILITY.

Rather than putting her up on a pedestal, she needs to be thought of as the poster child for the campaign against drug use. IMO.

To her credit.... Probably the best rendition of the National Anthem I've ever heard. 1991 Super Bowl.

Rest in Peace.

TMZ ( a really credible news source) is saying she did not drown, as there was not much water in her lungs. Suspecting alcohol and pills together. Same as the guy who played the joker. Same as hundreds of other people over the years in the entertainment industry. Bet she was on a lot of dead pools.

03Lightningrocks wrote:

RPB wrote:

rwg3 wrote:I agree that she shouldn't have done the drugs. Where I am willing to cut her a bit of a break is based on the environment she lived and worked in. The celebrity world has a nasty habit (no pun intended) of chewing up and spitting out it's participants at a breakneck pace. Having spent some time working with celebrities, the fawning servitude (albeit mostly false) that overwhelms them once they start to gain fame and money definately contributes to an unreal estimation of their abilites to overcome any challenge. It is sickening to see fans and sycophants reinforcing the sense of power that celebs have. These celebs tend to lose perspective and are too often presented with all kinds of options to do stupid things while their "support" tells them they can do no wrong.
She shouldn't have done the drugs, but I can see how it came to be.

Much like politicians ... they lose touch

Very good analogy!

I have spent almost my entire life working in the music and film world. Words cannot describe how disconnected and isolated one can become in that enviornment and it is very very easy to lose your persepective on everything. Every day at work, especially if you're a rock star, is an epic party to everyone else and it is extremely difficult not to get sucked into the "lifestyle". You will be surrounded by all sorts of sychophants looking to profit and advance themselves at your expense and they make sure that you are isolated from reality so that you can't see them for who they are. Its easy for those on the outside to speculate and judge but its a gross oversimplification and rooted in the fantasy of what a rock star is instead of the reality.

I am not defending her but I can completely understand how and why it happened. I have witnessed many of my colleagues lose themselves. The higher you rise in the industry and the more money that others make off of you the harder it becomes to stay grounded. There is not a vice that has not been frequently and sometimes literally thrown at me. I've managed to stay on the straight and narrow but it has been very difficult at times. I'm old and wise enough now that I'm not terribly concerned about screwing up but it only takes one moment of weakness and you're cooked. Even Ted Nugent, who is comletely straight edge, has confessed how difficult it was to refuse Jimmi Hendrix's offer of a joint one night. Wasn't his vice though...Uncle Teds has always been women

"The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - Hunter S. Thompson

The Annoyed Man wrote:Money won't buy happiness, but it will buy crack. Sad.

Maybe it was not crack?

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ytJpZguSy2U[/youtube]

Well there you have it. "Crack is wack"! Straight from the lips of the deceased celebrity. LOL... I am convinced!