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Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:25 am
by jchamb
I know how you feel. After shooting 1911's for 50 years, I finally decided to try a Glock 26 (easier to conceal for me). I immediately fell in love with it, and went out and got a Glock 19 too. Needless to say, I'm no longer "disrespecting" Glocks.
I'll never give up my 1911's, one of which I've had for about 30 years now, and I fire it on a pretty regular basic, but I sure love my Glocks.
(and for the record, I almost NEVER have a FTF or FTE with my 1911).

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:04 am
by The Annoyed Man
jchamb wrote:I know how you feel. After shooting 1911's for 50 years, I finally decided to try a Glock 26 (easier to conceal for me). I immediately fell in love with it, and went out and got a Glock 19 too. Needless to say, I'm no longer "disrespecting" Glocks.
I'll never give up my 1911's, one of which I've had for about 30 years now, and I fire it on a pretty regular basic, but I sure love my Glocks.
(and for the record, I almost NEVER have a FTF or FTE with my 1911).
On the days when I borrow my wife's G19 to carry, it's like this for me: I love a 1950s MOPAR Dodge with a V8 Hemi, but I'm driving a Nissan with a V6. Both will get you going if you maintain them, but the Japanese V6 is probably more impervious to infrequent maintenance. 1911s are like a nice example of that Hemi. Glocks are like V6s—a dime a dozen. Both will start every time you turn the key and they will get you to where you're going, but they will not both get you there in style. They may both inspire confidence, but they certainly don't both inspire passion. You don't see people trying to restore 1970s Honda Civics for car shows so much; but you see people restoring 1970s Detroit Iron all the time. In the meantime, the 40 year old Hondas are all rusting in junk yards.....if they haven't been crushed and recycled.

For many who think of guns as merely a tool, confidence may be sufficient. For others, a 1911, besides being an good time-honored design, may also inspire a connection to history, JMB, the century of tradition, etc., which a Glock cannot inspire no matter how good of a gun it is. And make no mistake, I think it is a very good gun. But, a Glock could never get my juices flowing the way that a 1911 or a Browning Hi-Power could. Glock makes a good gun, but I wouldn't call them a "classic."

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:20 pm
by i8godzilla
What's next? Are you going to get an AR just to keep your AKs company? Oh wait, you already did that!
:biggrinjester: :biggrinjester:

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:46 pm
by jmra
The Annoyed Man wrote:
jchamb wrote:I know how you feel. After shooting 1911's for 50 years, I finally decided to try a Glock 26 (easier to conceal for me). I immediately fell in love with it, and went out and got a Glock 19 too. Needless to say, I'm no longer "disrespecting" Glocks.
I'll never give up my 1911's, one of which I've had for about 30 years now, and I fire it on a pretty regular basic, but I sure love my Glocks.
(and for the record, I almost NEVER have a FTF or FTE with my 1911).
On the days when I borrow my wife's G19 to carry, it's like this for me: I love a 1950s MOPAR Dodge with a V8 Hemi, but I'm driving a Nissan with a V6. Both will get you going if you maintain them, but the Japanese V6 is probably more impervious to infrequent maintenance. 1911s are like a nice example of that Hemi. Glocks are like V6s—a dime a dozen. Both will start every time you turn the key and they will get you to where you're going, but they will not both get you there in style. They may both inspire confidence, but they certainly don't both inspire passion. You don't see people trying to restore 1970s Honda Civics for car shows so much; but you see people restoring 1970s Detroit Iron all the time. In the meantime, the 40 year old Hondas are all rusting in junk yards.....if they haven't been crushed and recycled.

For many who think of guns as merely a tool, confidence may be sufficient. For others, a 1911, besides being an good time-honored design, may also inspire a connection to history, JMB, the century of tradition, etc., which a Glock cannot inspire no matter how good of a gun it is. And make no mistake, I think it is a very good gun. But, a Glock could never get my juices flowing the way that a 1911 or a Browning Hi-Power could. Glock makes a good gun, but I wouldn't call them a "classic."
The 69 year old WWII colt 1911 stays at home in the safe. The fairly new Glock 23 stays on my side. I don't buy into the V8 - V6 comparison. If the old colt is an Edsel then the Glock is a corvette.

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 3:45 pm
by 74novaman
i8godzilla wrote:What's next? Are you going to get an AR just to keep your AKs company? Oh wait, you already did that!
:biggrinjester: :biggrinjester:
Haha, yep. I'm turning over all kinds of new leaves this last year. :biggrinjester:


Welp, I found some time to make it to the range this afternoon, so now I have a range report as well!

Didn't clean the thing (I said I was going to treat it like an AK ;-) ), just a touch of gun oil on the slide before I shot it.

180 error free rounds of cheap, monarch 115 grain brass cased stuff later....... :drool:

I was accurate with it (though still adjusting to the different trigger), it has a surprisingly short and sweet trigger reset, its lighter fully loaded than my 1911 is empty, it didn't hick up once (to be fair, my 5" 1911 has never given me any trouble either).

Lighter and more ammo onboard than my 1911.....I think I'm in trouble. :lol::

I tried the different backstraps dry firing and :yawn . I really like how this gun fits my hand without any of the backstraps on it. With either the medium or large straps, the thing feels like the brick I always complained about when I had tried out the gen 3 glocks.

Is it as sexy as my JMB designs? No. But its one heck of a good carry gun. :thumbs2:

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:16 pm
by longhorn_92
I used to make fun of the Glock... I now have two of them.

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 5:22 pm
by A-R
and to continue with TAM's V8 vs V6 analogy, feeding gas into a Hemi V8 and .45 ACP into a 1911 gets EXPENSIVE compared to feeding gas into a fuel-effecient V6 or 9mm into a Glock.

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:14 pm
by Salty1
Everybody makes mistakes in life, eventually they are forgiven..... :blowup

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:32 pm
by KWalk313000
Wont regret that purchase in the least.

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 6:44 pm
by The Annoyed Man
jmra wrote:
The Annoyed Man wrote:
jchamb wrote:I know how you feel. After shooting 1911's for 50 years, I finally decided to try a Glock 26 (easier to conceal for me). I immediately fell in love with it, and went out and got a Glock 19 too. Needless to say, I'm no longer "disrespecting" Glocks.
I'll never give up my 1911's, one of which I've had for about 30 years now, and I fire it on a pretty regular basic, but I sure love my Glocks.
(and for the record, I almost NEVER have a FTF or FTE with my 1911).
On the days when I borrow my wife's G19 to carry, it's like this for me: I love a 1950s MOPAR Dodge with a V8 Hemi, but I'm driving a Nissan with a V6. Both will get you going if you maintain them, but the Japanese V6 is probably more impervious to infrequent maintenance. 1911s are like a nice example of that Hemi. Glocks are like V6s—a dime a dozen. Both will start every time you turn the key and they will get you to where you're going, but they will not both get you there in style. They may both inspire confidence, but they certainly don't both inspire passion. You don't see people trying to restore 1970s Honda Civics for car shows so much; but you see people restoring 1970s Detroit Iron all the time. In the meantime, the 40 year old Hondas are all rusting in junk yards.....if they haven't been crushed and recycled.

For many who think of guns as merely a tool, confidence may be sufficient. For others, a 1911, besides being an good time-honored design, may also inspire a connection to history, JMB, the century of tradition, etc., which a Glock cannot inspire no matter how good of a gun it is. And make no mistake, I think it is a very good gun. But, a Glock could never get my juices flowing the way that a 1911 or a Browning Hi-Power could. Glock makes a good gun, but I wouldn't call them a "classic."
The 69 year old WWII colt 1911 stays at home in the safe. The fairly new Glock 23 stays on my side. I don't buy into the V8 - V6 comparison. If the old colt is an Edsel then the Glock is a corvette.
To each his own. That's why I used the term highlighted in red above. And by the way, all of those things are not a poor reflection on a Glock. I repeatedly said that they are good guns. We own one.....my wife's G19. I occasionally carry it. It carries well. I can't say anything bad about it. I just like a 1911 better, for all of the reasons I outlined above........but like I said above, "it's like this for me." And I would add, I'll probably buy another Glock some day.

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 11:32 pm
by baseballguy2001
I agree with some other posters, to each his own. I have two Glocks, and really like them. I get the 1911 bug now and then but it goes away as soon as I pick one up off a table at a gun show. It's like picking up a huge cordless drill! The Glocks are easy to clean, will eat just about any ammo, and shoot very well.

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:40 am
by apostate
How about giving up 9mm for Lent? ;-)

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 12:45 am
by 74novaman
apostate wrote:How about giving up 9mm for Lent? ;-)
Nope. Still liking this gun. :cool:

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 9:48 pm
by CC Italian
I remember when I first got my 27. I told my brother that I would never own tupperware. I ate my words!! :lol: My first firearm in my own place was an old Springfield 1911 that my father loaned to me in college. I had it for 3 years and had to give it back :cryin. Do I miss it? Yes but I get to shoot it whenever I want and I would take my Glocks any day over the 1911 as a carry piece.

Re: Forgive me, JMB for I have sinned

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:35 am
by PeteCamp
I'm not sure I understand all the either/or here. Am I to suppose that you fellas need a refresher course in whining and begging and reasoning and wrangling with the missus to get her to allow you to buy several of each? :smilelol5: