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Re: dogs?
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:57 pm
by stevie_d_64
Rex B wrote:Gun-sniffing dogs?
You know, I'd think an unloaded handgun locked in a car trunk would fall outside of a 30.06 posting. Surely a rifle would.
It does...And if I recall correctly we have had a legal expert testify to that effect in this forum...Just recently...
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:02 pm
by stevie_d_64
I'm actually waiting with bated breath to the "cut and pasters" so they can show us the statute...
I gotta run to the house now...
Later...
bait-breath
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 6:09 pm
by Rex B
And I applaud your correct use of the word 'bated'.
I wish I had a dime for every time I've seen someon write "baited breath".
Conjures up a vision of someone with sever halitosis.

Re: bait-breath
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:01 pm
by KBCraig
Rex B wrote:And I applaud your correct use of the word 'bated'.
I wish I had a dime for every time I've seen someon write "baited breath".
You really get lured in by that one, huh? Hook, line, and sinker?

WHOA!!!!! hold on there.
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:35 am
by CWOOD
Judging from the website address given and the name of the Texas Youth Commission, this would appear to be a governmental entity. Please correct me if I am wrong. The following comments are based on the premise that it IS a governmental entity.
If it IS a governmental entity, then they can post 30.06 till the cows come home and and it DOES NOT APPLY! As you may recall, the last legislative session changed 30.06 by adding section "e" which reads, in part, " it is an exception to the application of this secton..." that the property was owned or leased by a governmental entity.
Now they can prohibit possession as a condition of employment and they can fire your if you violate there rules but they cannot prosecute you per 30.06 whether it is posted or not. If TYC is NOT a governmental entity, they can do both. I am not a lawyer, just a CHL instructor...and first time poster on this forum. Glad to be here.
Re: WHOA!!!!! hold on there.
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 4:24 am
by KBCraig
CWOOD wrote:Judging from the website address given and the name of the Texas Youth Commission, this would appear to be a governmental entity. Please correct me if I am wrong. The following comments are based on the premise that it IS a governmental entity.
You're correct. It is a governmental entity.
If it IS a governmental entity, then they can post 30.06 till the cows come home and and it DOES NOT APPLY!
You're incorrect here, because there are still governmental properties that are off-limits. One example is the secure area of a prison, which is what we're talking about here ("TYC" being a euphemism for "juvenile prison"). Another example is a "school", which is what TYC attempts to address with their prohibition on carry in buildings where "education" takes place.
Now they can prohibit possession as a condition of employment and they can fire your if you violate there rules but they cannot prosecute you per 30.06 whether it is posted or not.
That's exactly the concern of the original poster, who is an employee of TYC. PC 30.06 doesn't apply, but that doesn't help if he loses his job.
I am not a lawyer, just a CHL instructor...and first time poster on this forum. Glad to be here.
Glad to have you here!
I can see you've got a strong interest in the law. You're going to be a good asset here, so please stick around. I wasn't trying to bust your chops on your first post, just keep the discussion in line for the very specific circumstance under discussion.
Oh, and do let us get to know you better by posting an introduction:
http://www.texasshooting.com/TexasCHL_F ... e+yourself
Kevin
Re: bait-breath
Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:35 am
by Mithras61
Rex B wrote:And I applaud your correct use of the word 'bated'.
I wish I had a dime for every time I've seen someon write "baited breath".
Conjures up a vision of someone with sever halitosis.

KBCraig wrote:You really get lured in by that one, huh? Hook, line, and sinker?
Wouldn't that be "Hook, line & STINKER?
