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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:30 pm
by Mithras61
txinvestigator wrote:
Mithras61 wrote:
nitrogen wrote:Yeah, he looked like that, only larger and a bit more menacing.

While growing up, a friend of mine had a huge rotweiler named Bear. He was the sweetest dog, but very powerful. He was well trained, and knew not to jump up on you. If he did, he'd knock you on your posterior easily.

As stated above, I avoid irritants and inflammatory agents because of a reaction I had when I was younger when I got exposed to some pepper spray and Asthma that I have.
I always liked this mace for use against dogs & other critters

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Maces.jpg
Unfortunately that Mace is illegal to carry. lol
True, but it isn't likely to inflame his asthma... :grin:

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:48 pm
by TxFire
I would agree with TxInvestigators first post and echo his rant. The Dogs are not the problem. ALL dogs should go through at the very least a basic obedience program. That training should be reinforced and used DAILY. Th owner should always be in control. The leash strength was far from the issue. I would venture a guess she was using one of the real type adjustable length leashes. These offer NO control of the dog. But if the dog were trained NO leash would be needed. I regularly walk both my German Shepherds off leash (though I carry a leash always). They are always under my control as they are well trained and know I am the leader.

Below are my two big goofs.

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Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 8:48 pm
by jimlongley
Two out of five of our "pack" in full watch mode.

The Lab is the actual alpha female, and the Rhodesian Ridgeback is still a puppy trying to contend for alpha. Beneath them are a "Maltiepoo" male (altered), a Cocker Spaniel, and a Dachshund puppy.

Of course all of them understand that I am the true alpha of the "pack" and run for cover when I bark.

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I can walk the lab on a thread and she will never break it, the others are a little tougher.

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 11:13 pm
by 308nato
My daughter is in the dog and pet owner training and some of the stories
she has about owners all you can do is just shake your head and wonder
how some of these people have functioned this long.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:42 pm
by nitrogen
Well, it happened again. I'm putting my recycling and garbage cans back around back and the dogs are out again. It was right around dusk.

I'm walking back around front, I open the gate and am rushed by the rotweiler again, with the owner right behind it. I was pretty much blindsided.

As I fell onto the grass, my gun was exposed. The woman shouted, "OH YOU HAVE GUN I CALL POLICE!" (realise this is on my property. She also seems to be an immigrant from somewhere I can't figure) So I called 'em as well about their dogs.

Let me just say I LOVE the police in my town. Apparently she really DID call the police, and they came by. Basically they said, "your neighbor called us because she saw your weapon, which was totally legal. I assume you're a CHL and I don't even want to see your ID or chl, and not that I think you two are going to have any problems, but I'm going to ask anyway, are you two going to have any problems?"
"As long as her dogs stay leashed and/or off my property."
"well, we issued her a citation about her out of control dogs. If they come back on your property, call us unless they attack, and I'm sure you know the law on that."

They then asked me if I wanted to press charges against them for the dog incident. I declined, as I wasn't hurt, but I asked them to reinforce the issue with them about keeping the dogs controlled, so they did.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 7:58 pm
by TxFire
Good to hear! I have yet to have any actual dealings with our local PD, so a good report on CHL friendliness is good to hear. Hope this ends the problems, though I doubt it will. People with that carefree an attitude about their dogs don't seem to get the picture or feel that they did anything wrong, in my experience.

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:01 pm
by txinvestigator
nitrogen wrote:Well, it happened again. I'm putting my recycling and garbage cans back around back and the dogs are out again. It was right around dusk.

I'm walking back around front, I open the gate and am rushed by the rotweiler again, with the owner right behind it. I was pretty much blindsided.

As I fell onto the grass, my gun was exposed. The woman shouted, "OH YOU HAVE GUN I CALL POLICE!" (realise this is on my property. She also seems to be an immigrant from somewhere I can't figure) So I called 'em as well about their dogs.

Let me just say I LOVE the police in my town. Apparently she really DID call the police, and they came by. Basically they said, "your neighbor called us because she saw your weapon, which was totally legal. I assume you're a CHL and I don't even want to see your ID or chl, and not that I think you two are going to have any problems, but I'm going to ask anyway, are you two going to have any problems?"
"As long as her dogs stay leashed and/or off my property."
"well, we issued her a citation about her out of control dogs. If they come back on your property, call us unless they attack, and I'm sure you know the law on that."

They then asked me if I wanted to press charges against them for the dog incident. I declined, as I wasn't hurt, but I asked them to reinforce the issue with them about keeping the dogs controlled, so they did.
I have called the police here in Wylie several times. Only once was I dissapointed. I posted that event here. The other times they have been spot on professional, and I expect A LOT from the police. :cool:

I wonder what "charges" they could file other than the "dog at large" city violation?

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:24 pm
by flintknapper
nitrogen wrote: The woman shouted, "OH YOU HAVE GUN I CALL POLICE!"


To which you may reply: "OH... YOU HAVE BIG UNRULY DOG, I CALL ANIMAL CONTROL". ;-)

http://www.ci.wylie.tx.us/AnimalControl/

Posted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:34 pm
by Reysc
TxFire wrote:I would agree with TxInvestigators first post and echo his rant. The Dogs are not the problem. ALL dogs should go through at the very least a basic obedience program. That training should be reinforced and used DAILY. Th owner should always be in control. The leash strength was far from the issue. I would venture a guess she was using one of the real type adjustable length leashes. These offer NO control of the dog. But if the dog were trained NO leash would be needed. I regularly walk both my German Shepherds off leash (though I carry a leash always). They are always under my control as they are well trained and know I am the leader.

Below are my two big goofs.

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+ 1 Here;s my BELOVED SIX YEAR OLD GRANDAUGHTER KARA.... Those of you who knows me have meet or heard about her...
Let the picture paint the thousand words... Dog's name is Chopper..

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Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 4:53 pm
by austin
The standing rule among ranchers is that all unrecognized dogs are shot on sight. Here is why.

One incident I had was last summer when checking out fences. I was over a mile from the nearest house.

I saw three large shapes go down to the water from a treeline a mile away near a pond. At first I thought they were hogs, but glassed them and they were dogs with collars.

I drove onto the dam and stopped 20 yards from the dogs and got out of my truck. "Here Doggy" I said.

They were hounds in the 70 pound range. They immediately went into agressive displays including showing their teeth and growling.

I got back in my truck as the dogs ran to me then past me. They stopped 100 yards away and looked back.

I proceeded to shoot them. All three dogs were stinking and had dead no-bark collars on them.

This (large) pond has been used for years by young boys in the area for fishing.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 5:12 pm
by Paladin
nitrogen wrote:"well, we issued her a citation about her out of control dogs. If they come back on your property, call us unless they attack, and I'm sure you know the law on that."

They then asked me if I wanted to press charges against them for the dog incident. I declined, as I wasn't hurt, but I asked them to reinforce the issue with them about keeping the dogs controlled, so they did.
I love it! :lol:

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:13 pm
by TX Rancher
Austin:

I too have had trouble with dogs on my ranch, both domestic and wild. They've attacked the cattle, horses, and my cattle dogs...once, they attached me. Like you, I keep a weapon handy.

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:29 pm
by glocklvr
I had some trouble with some neighborhood dogs chasing my motorcycle and almost brought me down a couple of times and despite talking to the neighbors and may calls to animal control they continued to be a problem until 1 day when they decided to chase my chevy and without going into details lets just say the chevy won that encounter

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:16 pm
by dihappy
Nitrogen,

I woulda OC sprayed em on the spot man.

Get you some OC spray and when they run off yelping, you can tell the owner to keep them secured next time.

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:59 am
by KBCraig
dihappy wrote:Nitrogen,

I woulda OC sprayed em on the spot man.

Get you some OC spray and when they run off yelping, you can tell the owner to keep them secured next time.
Bold assumption to make.

Shreveport PD recently rolled up on a pit bull who had a yellow lab down and pinned by the throat. Officers sprayed OC directly into the pit's mouth and eyes and up his nostrils, but he didn't turn loose. They finally hit him with a Taser, which made him turn loose and disappear over the horizon.

This was a month or so ago; KTBS had a report about it.

Kevin