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Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:56 am
by fannypacker
This simply sounds implausable to me.

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:37 pm
by recaffeination
Maybe if he was dancing on a table.

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 1:40 pm
by 74novaman
I think there just might be a little more to this story.....

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 2:25 pm
by steveincowtown
Same thing happen to my Uncle Mike.








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Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 3:38 pm
by RHenriksen
I think the folks in this forum are probably unaware of the, um, intimate nature of modern dancing. It's actually pretty easy for me to picture a 'dancing' configuration that would generate the appropriate angles, but describing it would probably violate the 8 year old daughter rule in effect here!

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:01 pm
by teri
Did I understand correctly: it was a party at his house and he didn't know the girl?

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:00 pm
by philip964
Made Houston Chronicle and Drudge Reports today. Obviously guns are unsafe even when worn by professionals.

I suspect this will get a lot of mileage now.

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:33 pm
by RPB
teri wrote:Did I understand correctly: it was a party at his house and he didn't know the girl?
correct

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:47 pm
by C-dub
RPB wrote:
teri wrote:Did I understand correctly: it was a party at his house and he didn't know the girl?
correct
Yup. She was a guest of another invited guest.

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:48 pm
by C-dub
RHenriksen wrote:I think the folks in this forum are probably unaware of the, um, intimate nature of modern dancing. It's actually pretty easy for me to picture a 'dancing' configuration that would generate the appropriate angles, but describing it would probably violate the 8 year old daughter rule in effect here!
I don't know about that. I still remember break dancing. :biggrinjester:

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:02 pm
by bigbang
RHenriksen wrote:I think the folks in this forum are probably unaware of the, um, intimate nature of modern dancing. It's actually pretty easy for me to picture a 'dancing' configuration that would generate the appropriate angles, but describing it would probably violate the 8 year old daughter rule in effect here!
The story said he was dancing with his wife when the other woman was shot. Based on that style of dancing, it makes it even more likely the interloper was shot by his wife instead of it being some freak dance accident.

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 9:53 am
by JJVP
Some additional details here
 David Balash, a former Michigan State Police firearms examiner, told the AP:
"What's going to be very important here is the angle of the entry of the wound to the victim (and) if there is in fact any gunpowder residue. I'm having a great deal of difficulty understanding how a weapon that's pointed at the ground can be turned literally 110 degrees minimum to be in an upward position to strike someone."
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Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:36 am
by Right2Carry
JJVP wrote:Some additional details here
 David Balash, a former Michigan State Police firearms examiner, told the AP:
"What's going to be very important here is the angle of the entry of the wound to the victim (and) if there is in fact any gunpowder residue. I'm having a great deal of difficulty understanding how a weapon that's pointed at the ground can be turned literally 110 degrees minimum to be in an upward position to strike someone."
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... ident?lite" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Gotta agree. I don't believe the officers story at all. Now maybe if the deceased was a midget it might be plausible but still highly unlikely.

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 10:47 am
by VMI77
Right2Carry wrote:
JJVP wrote:Some additional details here
 David Balash, a former Michigan State Police firearms examiner, told the AP:
"What's going to be very important here is the angle of the entry of the wound to the victim (and) if there is in fact any gunpowder residue. I'm having a great deal of difficulty understanding how a weapon that's pointed at the ground can be turned literally 110 degrees minimum to be in an upward position to strike someone."
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/ ... ident?lite" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Gotta agree. I don't believe the officers story at all. Now maybe if the deceased was a midget it might be plausible but still highly unlikely.

But note something else from the article.....the media managed to get a couple of quips in to serve their agenda:
The mother of a Detroit woman shot and killed while dancing with an off-duty police officer questioned Monday why he would carry a loaded gun at a party in his own backyard.
See, there is something nefarious about having a gun in your own backyard --even for a cop. On duty is one thing...but in your own backyard?
"Why do you need a gun at your own house? Why do you need a gun at your own party?" she asked. McNair said she would be watching the police investigation closely.
Why does anyone need a gun at their own house? Ya see, the police should check their weapons in at the station when they go off duty, like those sensible Europeans do --because NO ONE needs a gun at their own house.

Re: Hug Triggers Officer's Gun, Kills Woman

Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2012 1:52 pm
by surprise_i'm_armed
Yes, why would a LEO who arrests bad boys all day in his job, ever have to worry about someone harming him?

SIA