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9mmGuy wrote:

tex45acp wrote: when a very young Bellaire cop assisted me and looking down, saw the butt of the grip/magazine of my XD45.

Just a question. But is that not failure to conceal?? If a reasonable person can see it with normal observation

I thought he meant it was in the door pocket. Completely concealed from "ordinary observation", only visible with the door open.

Kevin

o, i thouhgt he meant it was on his person(belt).

rgoldy wrote: The event did bring up a question in my mind. Namely, what happens if I am injured seriously enough in an accident that I have to be transported to a hospital? Who gets custody of my weapon? (assuming that my wife is not along and able to take care of it) I am sure that the situation has occurred, but I have never heard anything about how it was handled.

I work for a FD in the DFW area and will answer with regards to OUR policy.

1) We do no search for weapons, though we may find them due to exam.
2) If the patient is at home, awake and alert the patient will be asked to store and secure the weapon.
3)If patient is unable to secure the weapon and the Police ARE available, they will secure the weapon.
4) If the patient is unable and the Police are NOT available, we will place the weapon in a gun case (carried on each ambulance), complete a form, leave a copy of the form with the patient, and turn over the form and sealed gun case to our local Police to check into the property room.

In almost 10 years I have yet to experience a scenario requiring this procedure be used personally. I also personally see some areas for some latitude outside the official policy in some situations if I feel so inclined and safe to do so. Though the powers that be might disagree.

I once worked a major accident that involved a gun....and it was interesting. Typical t-bone during a rainstorm with my patients being an elderly man and woman in one of the vehicles. Packaged grandma and got her out of the vehicle, but grandpa in the passenger side wouldn't budge and kept trying to bend down to reach under the seat. He wasn't cooperating and finally told me that he wasn't going anywhere without the pistol that was under his seat.

No PD support because of the storm and multiple accidents, so there was no LEO to take custody of the weapon. Grandma was driving and was on the side that got hit and her condition dictated that she needed to get to the hospital. I made a command decision, pulled the weapon from under the seat, and unloaded it (a S&W M10). I wrapped it in a sheet, stored it safely, and put the rounds in my pocket. We took care of business and made the transport.

On the way to the hospital, grandpa tells me about the gun. The story was pretty interesting but turned really weird when he revealed that his daughter had committed suicide with it. He said he didn't let that revolver get out of his sight because it connected him to his daughter.

Anyway, get to the hospital and get grandma into the ER. Go back to the box to get grandpa and haul him in (pistol wrapped in a sheet and on the cot between his ankles). Get him in the room, transfer him to the bed, and I decided it's time to tell the nurse what's up....I guess I shouldn't have started with, "Now, don't freak out, but...." because she did. I kept control of the pistol while she ran around like a chicken with its head cut off.

A couple of that local community's finest arrived VERY quickly and asked loudly, "Where's the gun?" I turned it over with little fanfare and was glad to get rid of it. Got back to the house and asked everyone who had collar decorations what I should have done and received no response because it had never happened.

Still no SOP......

Then there was the time we took the cute 20 year old blonde female out of her car after a wreck and the big bag of pot dropped on the ground, but that's another boring war story....

Afff_667 wrote:Then there was the time we took the cute 20 year old blonde female out of her car after a wreck and the big bag of pot dropped on the ground, but that's another boring war story....

Get her number?

pot head!!!

KBCraig wrote:

Afff_667 wrote:Then there was the time we took the cute 20 year old blonde female out of her car after a wreck and the big bag of pot dropped on the ground, but that's another boring war story....

Get her number?

He does, and I notice he is not sharing.

I'm certain I've made a call on her too!

TxFire wrote:I'm certain I've made a call on her too!

Geez, in wylie and frisco...she most get around. lol
and to have had accidents in both cities. dang...

Afff_667 wrote:No PD support because of the storm and multiple accidents, so there was no LEO to take custody of the weapon. Grandma was driving and was on the side that got hit and her condition dictated that she needed to get to the hospital. I made a command decision, pulled the weapon from under the seat, and unloaded it (a S&W M10). I wrapped it in a sheet, stored it safely, and put the rounds in my pocket. We took care of business and made the transport.

Good call!

Still no SOP......

If your medical director, or local Law Enforcement has not advised, and this still bugs you, I'd press the issue for some kind of direction...If it still doesn't seem to break the impasse, then I'd keep with your judgement, which I believe has been established to be in good working order...And just let it go...Obviously not an issue with them...

I've pulled a few roofs in my time as well, but have never come across a firearm during that time...Lucky I guess...But in all of those I had local PD in support...