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Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:47 pm
by jocat54
tomtexan wrote:And to any and all that are going to take any class to get a Florida license just to bypass the Texas requirements. I did the very same thing. The advertisement looked so appealing. No shoot, 4 hours only class. I have known about Texas CHL being available since it became reality in 1995. I was not actually eligible until 2000. I kept putting it off for the next 12 years. And finally I saw the ad in the paper for the Florida license. I thought, hey, why not? It's just too easy. So, I went and took the class and a month later I had the Florida license. After I got it, I got to thinking that this just doesn't feel right. What if I get pulled over by the law and display a Texas driver license and a Florida handgun license? That might raise some eyebrows. Long story short, I took the Texas class the very next month and got the Texas license a short time later.

So the lesson learned here was, if you get the Florida license so you can bypass the long and strict Texas requirements, you won't feel good about it in the long run. At least that is the way it worked for me.
Why did you have to take a class to get a Florida License? Was it show competency with a firearm?
I have had a Florida License for a while now and all I had to do was fill out the application and send them a copy of my DD214.
The Florida license is legal in Texas.

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:04 pm
by tomtexan
jocat54 wrote:Why did you have to take a class to get a Florida License? Was it show competency with a firearm?
Yes.
jocat54 wrote:The Florida license is legal in Texas.
Yes, it is.

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:38 pm
by Jim Beaux
....and, the applicant is not getting a deal, in fact, he is getting ripped off. An understanding of Texas CHL laws is important and it needs more than 2 hours to get a grasp of it. The class is for the CHL's protection.

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 9:45 pm
by tomtexan
Jim Beaux wrote:....and, the applicant is not getting a deal, in fact, he is getting ripped off. An understanding of Texas CHL laws is important and it needs more than 2 hours to get a grasp of it. The class is for the CHL's protection.
Right on! :iagree:

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:31 pm
by Oldgringo
One could stay in a class 56 hours and not learn/understand what one needs to know. The Texas CHL class is not about training lawyers, it's about the responsibilities, requirements and consequences of legally carrying a CW IN Texas, not anywhere else. A Texas CHL is not a Batman license and neither is any other state's CCW thinghy a Batman license.

I learned most of everything I know about CHL from this forum. IANAL, but I am a Texas CH licensee. Just sayin'...

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 6:43 pm
by Ebriangoff
I did mention to him that the way it may be legal is if it's for another state that Texas recognizes. I haven't heard back from him since then, so I assume he did a little more research. I am new to the CHL world, but think it is irresponsible for someone to take a shortened class, especially if the class doesn't require shooting. We had a 70 year old lady the other day in my class that was there for a renewal and couldn't pass the shooting portion. Kinda scary. Our instructor made her schedule another shooting time.

Well, thanks for all the info guys. I am looking forward to getting my license and am sure I will be on this forum quite a bit.

Thanks!

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:01 pm
by mommagamber
At the gun show in Conroe last weekend there was more then one CHL company promoting getting and Utah or Florida license thru them until you "had time" to get your TX CHL - which they also offered. I thought hhmmm. I understand it is legal for them to do that but it just feels wrong and "misguided". Guess that is just me and my morals.

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 7:13 pm
by Mike1951
mommagamber wrote:At the gun show in Conroe last weekend there was more then one CHL company promoting getting and Utah or Florida license thru them until you "had time" to get your TX CHL - which they also offered. I thought hhmmm. I understand it is legal for them to do that but it just feels wrong and "misguided". Guess that is just me and my morals.
Makes no sense for Utah, since they require you to have a Texas license to get theirs.

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 9:39 pm
by CMalin
All these people trying to go around getting a Texas chl. I understand getting on in another state because sometime the local pd may not know th reciprocity agreement. Seems as if you ever had to use deadly force the prosecutor would have a hay day with you on the stand, with an out of state chl.

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2012 10:05 pm
by 74novaman
CMalin wrote:All these people trying to go around getting a Texas chl. I understand getting on in another state because sometime the local pd may not know th reciprocity agreement. Seems as if you ever had to use deadly force the prosecutor would have a hay day with you on the stand, with an out of state chl.
Gotta disagree with you. A valid CHL is a valid CHL. If Texas has reprocity, that means the state has judged their requirements as good enough for the state of Texas.

I have a Texas CHL, but am heavily considering adding an Arizona CHL. Mainly because my first renewal is coming up next year, and just in case it takes longer than expected, I could still carry under the Arizona license while I wait for my Texas one to come back. :thumbs2:

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:14 am
by JustMe
I have been considering getting--in addition too, not instead of--the AZ, so that I can pick up a couple more states(primarily NV)

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 12:25 am
by Mike1951
This was the latest questionable option, a one hour Virginia license done online.

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Yes, we have reciprocity with VA.

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 7:47 pm
by smoothoperator
Texas could fix a big part of the problem by reducing fees but they keep them high for the same reasons there used to be poll taxes.

The tests and fees for a CHL should be eliminated for the same reasons we no longer have literacy tests and poll taxes.

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Wed Aug 01, 2012 8:56 pm
by Oldgringo
smoothoperator wrote:Texas could fix a big part of the problem by reducing fees but they keep them high for the same reasons there used to be poll taxes.

The tests and fees for a CHL should be eliminated for the same reasons we no longer have literacy tests and poll taxes.
I do not disagree with you. The cost of a Texas CHL is disproportionately HIGH....and it's all about the money. Look at the money taken in by TPW and then look where it goes, eh?

Re: 2 hour CHL class??

Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2012 7:56 pm
by Hoosier Daddy
The crazy high fees are why I didn't get Texas plastic.