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Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 9:37 pm
by Ranger+P+
Understand that is my total tally over a span of about 1 year--typically I burn all the carcasses of the dogs for disease reasons, as for the coyotes, if I like the pelt, I dress it and burn the rest. I like wild pork, so I eat most of the hog, the rest I toss.

Re: Feral Animals

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:21 pm
by rbraughn
[/b][/quote]Holy smokes you’ve been busy. So what do you do with all those(dogs) carcasses?[/quote][/b]


He tells all of you guys it is Pork and gives it away :razz:

Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:37 pm
by zigzag
Wild Pork is great on the grill. Texasboars.com

I'll help!!

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:16 am
by RoundRock_Gun_Fan
I'd love to come out and help you remove some pests. :grin: I'm always in the mood to hunt. Hogs can definately tear up your property. I read that they are tearing up the golf course at Sun City in Georgetown. I guess they need to hire Bill Murry to get rid of them!! :mrgreen:

RR

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:27 am
by zigzag
Yeah hogs can do a lot of damage.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:57 am
by Will938
Speaking of wild animals in remote places...I packed up most of my arsonal to go shooting the next day in my truck (AR-15, Sig 228, Keltec P3AT, Buck Mark).

I go back inside and hear something wrap on the door, we're so far out here that we've never, ever had anyone come to the door before. I go outside and no one is there. Then I hear a knock on the wall outside my room, I'm now kind of freaked out. I get out the last firearm I have left, an extended mag Remington 870, 12 gauge, 00 buck all the way. I dare not go outside as its pitch black and my flashlight is the smaller mag light, the kind they make holsters for. For the next hour I consistantly hear a thump somewhere on the house. Eventually I busted out onto the porch just in time to see a possum or racoon scurry off. My roommate came home and we had the normal chat, then I informed him that "Mr. Jingles" was on the prowl. He was like...what? Just then something ran across the roof and I said, "Its him!" My roommate flipped out, it was hilarious.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 5:48 pm
by austin
We own 300 acres and least another 1500+.

If you are really serious about getting the hogs, build a large trap with hog panels and t-posts and catch them in trailer loads. You can get 40 to 80 cents a pound and forty hogs will make you some $$. It will take 3-5 weeks for a new bunch to move in after catching a big herd.

You might want to reconsider taking the bobcats as I have seen them take down a piglet and in another case chase a piglet ( right by me - three bobcats and one scared pig ).

I use a .243 wssm for deliberate hunting of varmints ( coyotes and hogs ) but it is inadquate past 400 yards. I hit the coyote/pig but he is able to run away most of the time. Nothing is more annoying and a little unnerving than looking for a piglet in brush. Inside of 150 yards, it usually splits the animal apart. The M14 will do the trick for longer shots, and I want to get one, but that will be some $$.

I keep a 30-30 in the truck and it gets the most use. And it always takes them down.

We have hogs and coyotes foraging close enough to the house most every night close enough to turn on the motion lights. For this the 22 WMR with the TNT+JHP is even better inside 20 yards. *ANY* contact with any part of the animal just leaves a giant hole. The WMR is light enough to shoot from inside the house if you need to and as I have.

I sometimes use my XD-45 outside by the house as well but it is not a knockdown round - even possums can run a bit after taking a hit.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 6:36 pm
by Ranger+P+
We have several hog traps but still have problems. we are considering hosting some hog hunts to introduce people to hunting with with AR's (the dreaded evil rifle!) and get the word out.....

I like predator hunting as a sport and sell the bobcat pelts even though you wont get much, but the prices are going up.

A .243 in any form is an awful round, I stay away from it like the plague.
a .30-30 is not much better.

It has been my experience with hogs to use the biggest gun you can to avoid scouring thru the brush for hours looking for spore, I avoid .22 calibers, even magnums--I like the .308, my dad uses a .270. In an AR I have started using the new 6.8SPC round--it has a .277 caliber bullet, same as the .270 Winchester. It shoots flat and has the recoil of a .223, but hits like a .270-- I really like it.

As far as the .45 not being a knockdown round????, I will let history speak for that--

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:19 pm
by Tom
Ranger+P+ wrote:We have several hog traps but still have problems. we are considering hosting some hog hunts to introduce people to hunting with with AR's (the dreaded evil rifle!) and get the word out.....

I like predator hunting as a sport and sell the bobcat pelts even though you wont get much, but the prices are going up.

A .243 in any form is an awful round, I stay away from it like the plague.
a .30-30 is not much better.

It has been my experience with hogs to use the biggest gun you can to avoid scouring thru the brush for hours looking for spore, I avoid .22 calibers, even magnums--I like the .308, my dad uses a .270. In an AR I have started using the new 6.8SPC round--it has a .277 caliber bullet, same as the .270 Winchester. It shoots flat and has the recoil of a .223, but hits like a .270-- I really like it.

As far as the .45 not being a knockdown round????, I will let history speak for that--
Ranger,

I started out using bigger calibers on hogs (6.5 Swede & .30-06) but soon went to a different approach.

I now only use my AR with a carry handle scope. It has been 100% successful on head and neck shots.
All of my shots are inside of 100 yds. I have not tried to drop one with a body shot and I expect if I did I would
be scouring thru the brush, as you state.

If you do decide to host AR hunts you might consider having them use a head or neck shot only.
I have not had one so much as move a step or two before falling over.
And as you know hogs have BIG heads. I usually aim right at the base of the ear. That way, an inch or two in
any direction is still a quick kill.

I load 55gr SP's with 25gr of IMR 4895. Plenty hot for the job.

I must confess though that I have been waiting lately with my Marlin 1895CB in 45/70 with 300gr HP's.
I just want to see what they will do.

One of my neighbors has had good success shooting smaller hogs from her porch with her
9mm Tanfoglio (sp?).
She and her hubby made the mistake of putting in sod on a area just behind their house and the
hogs love it.
I think a .45 would work fine too, at close range.


Kind Regards,

Tom

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:01 pm
by flintknapper
Tom wrote:
Ranger+P+ wrote:We have several hog traps but still have problems. we are considering hosting some hog hunts to introduce people to hunting with with AR's (the dreaded evil rifle!) and get the word out.....

I like predator hunting as a sport and sell the bobcat pelts even though you wont get much, but the prices are going up.

A .243 in any form is an awful round, I stay away from it like the plague.
a .30-30 is not much better.

It has been my experience with hogs to use the biggest gun you can to avoid scouring thru the brush for hours looking for spore, I avoid .22 calibers, even magnums--I like the .308, my dad uses a .270. In an AR I have started using the new 6.8SPC round--it has a .277 caliber bullet, same as the .270 Winchester. It shoots flat and has the recoil of a .223, but hits like a .270-- I really like it.

As far as the .45 not being a knockdown round????, I will let history speak for that--
Ranger,

I started out using bigger calibers on hogs (6.5 Swede & .30-06) but soon went to a different approach.

I now only use my AR with a carry handle scope. It has been 100% successful on head and neck shots.All of my shots are inside of 100 yds. I have not tried to drop one with a body shot and I expect if I did I would
be scouring thru the brush, as you state.

If you do decide to host AR hunts you might consider having them use a head or neck shot only.
I have not had one so much as move a step or two before falling over.
And as you know hogs have BIG heads. I usually aim right at the base of the ear. That way, an inch or two in
any direction is still a quick kill.

I load 55gr SP's with 25gr of IMR 4895. Plenty hot for the job.

I must confess though that I have been waiting lately with my Marlin 1895CB in 45/70 with 300gr HP's.
I just want to see what they will do.

One of my neighbors has had good success shooting smaller hogs from her porch with her
9mm Tanfoglio (sp?).
She and her hubby made the mistake of putting in sod on a area just behind their house and the
hogs love it.
I think a .45 would work fine too, at close range.


Kind Regards,

Tom

Agreed,

You don't always get the angle you want on hogs, but if you confine your shots to the head/neck area...then many cartridges will get the job done.

My daughter has killed every one she has shot.. with my .45 auto (less than 25 yds. from a dedicated hog stand).

I have shot them with everything from a .223 to a .338 mag. over the last 25 years. Body shots (shoulder/behind the shoulder) almost always result in you having to track your pig.

Anything in front of the shoulder to just behind the jaw is "the place" to shoot any hog over 100 lbs. No tracking, no blood trail to follow, no chance of being charged. You just pick 'em up right where you shot 'em. You are looking for a shot that breaks the spine.

We trap Hogs year round, run them with dogs, and shoot them on sight. Still.... they manage to repopulate faster than we can kill them (run them off actually).

I don't "hate" many things, but hogs are right at the top of my list. :evil:

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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:08 pm
by Ranger+P+
I agree that shot placement not power is key in dropping any animal (including humans). However, with our upcoming "Hog Wild Hunt" we mostly are going to have newcomers to shooting and accuracy is going to be a big problem. To remedy this, we are going to have an assortment of scoped AR's, lever actions and bolt-actions inlcuding the great .45/70 (one of my first guns). Safety is my biggest concern here, and I dont want to be tracking a wounded boar or sow hog thru thick brush only to be charged. (It has happened to me numerous times, sometimes comical, sometimes dang scary!!)

The whole ideal of this hunt is to introduce folks who have never been around guns or hunting that much or people who are hunters and don't know that much about AR's, and show them that AR's are a hunting rifle and have alot of practical use!!

I plan on breaking out me and my dad'e entire collection of AR's we have built from the ground up in various calibers to show them the versatility of the AR:
-Alexander Arms .50 Beowulf (great brush gun, knockdown power galore)
-RR .458 SOCOM..another heavy hitter at 100 yds and in
-Kit Mongrel in 6.8SPC (my new favorite AR round-we handload these puppies--talk about performance!!!)

I want to get the word out as much as possible in the next couple of months about this event--you are more than welcome to come and participate too--PM me for more details!!!

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:25 pm
by flintknapper
Should be fun.

We have the greatest success baiting out roads with corn for several weeks beforehand. We normally shoot hogs from slightly elevated stands, but spotlighting the pastures (legal) works too. Most movement will occur in the early morning hours and then again just before dark (when undisturbed). They will be almost completely nocturnal when pushed though.

Hogs that have been coming to corn (feeder or spread on roads) for awhile can become a little bit careless, but those that have been hunted before will bust you as fast as any deer. New comers, make sure you get clean, be quiet, and stay downwind. At night you have thermals to contend with (cooler air settling), pay attention to that.

Ranger you sound like a seasoned hog hunter, so none of this is news to you, but some of your guests might glean something from it.

Good luck, and hunt safely.

Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:56 pm
by dihappy
Wow, sounds like we should get a group going :)

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:03 am
by KBCraig
I'm sure even .223 works fine when you're hunting the hog. The problem comes when the hog is hunting you! :shock:

Posted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:33 am
by zigzag
Range , I definitely would like to part of this . I dont have an AR though but have both a M1 garand .3006 and a K98 8 mm, both sighted in, im very confident shooting open sights within 100 yds .